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FLT-bird: "Lincoln sent ships which repeated invaded South Carolina's sovereign territory."

Name even one ship which you can prove "invaded South Carolina's sovereign territory"?

FLT-bird: "He then sent a heavily armed fleet which was to threaten Charleston.
This forced the Confederates to open fire to evict the illegal squatters."

And yet there was no "heavily armed fleet" threatening Charleston, there was only one small ship even there, a revenue cutter, the Harriet Lane and it threatened no Confederates in Charleston or anywhere else that day.

FLT-bird: "If you don't acknowledge that Lincoln deliberately started the war according to his own letter to his naval commander and according to both of his personal secretaries, then it is just another PC Revisionist lie."

And so, we see, yet again, that under no circumstances can a dedicated propagandist like FLT-bird ever be forced to confess the truth, which even his own master, Jefferson Davis, readily admitted the week before events unfolded at Fort Sumter.

Lincoln's words -- three weeks later, on May 1, 1861 -- are clearly intended to console Capt. Fox over the failure of his mission to resupply Fort Sumter and to put the best face possible on it.

The choice to start war at Fort Sumter was made by Jefferson Davis long before any ships left port in the North, as Davis himself confessed to Gen. Bragg on April 3, 1861.

FLT-bird: "But for the invasion of their territory, they wouldn't have opened fire."

By Jefferson Davis' own words of April 3, he intended to start war at both Fort Sumter and Fort Pickens as soon as he felt ready, regardless of what Lincoln did or didn't do.

Those are facts you chose to ignore because you loathe and despise the real truth.

Name even one ship which you can prove "invaded South Carolina's sovereign territory"?

so you are claiming Lincoln did not send ships which invaded South Carolina's territorial waters?

and yet there was a heavily armed fleet threatening Charleston as has already been outlined in this thread.

And so, we see, yet again, that under no circumstances can a dedicated propagandist like BroJoeK ever be forced to confess the truth, which even his own master, Lincoln Davis, readily admitted to his Naval commander that he wanted a war and even if both of his personal secretaries confirmed it.

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Lincoln's words -- three weeks later, on May 1, 1861 -- are clearly intended to console Capt. Fox over the failure of his mission to resupply Fort Sumter and to put the best face possible on it.

LOL! Pure BS. Console? He was jubilant as his letter clearly shows. He got the war he wanted.

The choice to start war at Fort Sumter was made by Lincoln when he sent a fleet of warships to invade South Carolina's territory.

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By Jefferson Davis' own words of April 3, he intended to start war at both Fort Sumter and Fort Pickens as soon as he felt ready, regardless of what Lincoln did or didn't do.

Davis was compelled to open fire to drive away the invasion fleet Lincoln sent.

Those are facts you chose to ignore because you loathe and despise the real truth.

Those are the actual facts which you refuse to admit because they run directly contrary to the lies and propaganda you are so desperate to push.