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To: Godzilla

FISH ON!!!

This will be fun. You brought your bedpan to a match you cannot win.

Full disclosure: I do not dismiss the magnitude of this future event - including to coastal areas, likely to occur LONG after my passing - but merely the hyped BS promulgated by money-grubbing bureaucrats and suckers (check your mirror).

You're citing sources from the internet like a teenager hot-posting to social media.

Regardless that you're acting like an ignoramus freshman at CalState, you were clearly never involved in emergency management in the PNW.

I was.

You're just an armchair quarterback operating from his mother's basement or, at a minimum, harbor no credibility whatsoever about PNW geologic events.

Let me repeat for others:

Evidenced by your sourcing, you have no credibility whatsoever on geologic events.

Goldfinger is an idiot and IS, in fact, one of Kathryn Schulz's sources for her ridiculous 2015 piece. It was a bureaucrat - a FEMA official, Kenneth Murphy, a bureaucrat with NO credentials in seismology and merely a BS Science in Management & Communications - who was the source of your ignorance:

The Really Big One

Kenneth Murphy, who directs fema’s Region X, the division responsible for Oregon, Washington, Idaho, and Alaska, says, “Our operating assumption is that everything west of Interstate 5 will be toast.”
Your source of ignorance also projects the fraudulent climate change in her other works.

How's that grab you? Some Conservative. /s

Oregon is populated by academia-sourced idiots. True Conservatives here at FR do NOT cite academia unless out of bias. Or ignorance. Or cranial-rectal inversion.

I digress.

Emergency management at the highest levels are both realists and hypocrites befitting the liberal climate of government in Oregon & Washington. Though they openly mock the idiocy of Schulz, there ARE some true scientists working here and due to the fact that they know they can't keep projecting the FRAUD of a 'MAG 9' impact upon populated inland areas of the PNW NOT impacted by tsunami, they published this merely a few weeks ago:

New study predicts less damage than previously expected to bridges in Western Washington following a M9 earthquake

Translated: They acknowledge that the shaking inland will be FAR LESS DESTRUCTIVE than state officials proclaim with their scare headlines (which, ironically, also lack any meaningful actions whatsoever, including - but not limited to - a glaring lack of building code updates to match or exceed that of earthquake-prone areas of CA).

Better, your beloved USGS published this shakemap of the PNW in regards to M 9.3 Scenario Earthquake - Cascadia Megathrust:

Ironically, it does NOT project 9-9.3 shaking anywhere ashore.

Gee...I wonder why? /s

Also - ironically - it looks a LOT like the Tohoku shake map:

Ignorance (yours) aside, the geology of Japan and western Oregon are remarkably similar (barring the inevitable liquefaction zones and obvious sedimentary formations). Ironically, Japan's shaking was reduced significantly on the western side of its mountainous ranges; the Cascade Range presents a geologic barrier to a subduction event, but that's another discussion altogether (though not with knuckleheads).

The 'experts' now forecast greater damage to Seattle from a rupture of the local Seattle Fault.

Batter up, bat-boy.

941 posted on 12/20/2022 9:10:29 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

Normally it would be fun to engage further in a battle of wits, however it is unfair since you are unarmed. Most of your last is nothing but projection, ad hominem and just poor reading and scientific comprehension.

The simple fact that the Cascadia subduction zone is a known mag 9 feature, with demonstrable periodic recurrence is pretty much not up for argument - and money grubbing bureaucrats have no say over the matter - its science. BTW - your first failure in reading comprehension is that I didn’t put a definitive time line to the next quake - only that it is coming and the recurrence intervals have wide error bars. But why ruin your rant on just that.

Your involvement in emergency management in PNW must have been to bring the coffee as you don’t understand your poorly produced ‘citation’ Or you were just another one of those greedy bureaucrats.

A USGS scientist is an idiot - with no supporting background on how technically he is wrong - right got it. My career involved working with a number of USGS geologist/seismologists and paleoseismologists - and they have been top quality scientists. Nope, you don’t get a USGS paleoseismologist position by being an idiot - those are highly competitive positions. but then its easier for you to character assassinate when you can’t counter their views any other way.

Oh and now you progress to the ‘true scotsman’ fallacy only renaming it true conservatives.

Sadly, science isn’t a conservative issue alone, but in this field it must stand on the facts and evidence. Contrary to your bleat, I didn’t cite anyone but my own observations based on multiple studies and reports I’ve read over the course of my career over the years - so much for your straw man on that one. Even your post of the projected shake map supports me. But leave it to self-proclaimed debunkers like yourself to debunk yourself in the process.

Lets see - “Ironically, it does NOT project 9-9.3 shaking anywhere ashore.”
The contour version of the same figure shows level VIII shaking eastward to (gasp) the general trend of I-5. In my original post I clearly stated things will be bad west of I-5 - I never made the controversial ‘citation’ you claim I did. Try common sense that if level VIII is present as far east as I-5, its gonna be a lot worse the closer to the epicenter (common sense). You post a picture with no link to the contouring methodology or assumptions - ‘hot posting’ eh? lets just throw a picture up and ignore those key features in how it was created. Since it depicts the majority of the potential damage to the west of I-5 my observation is supported by your very own post.

In that alone it doesn’t properly match the japanese map. but deeper comparison would ruin your bleat as well. You like to compare apples to oranges on this subject - with your self proclaimed trained eye.

” the Cascade Range presents a geologic barrier to a subduction event,”
BTW - the Cascade mountains are there BECAUSE of subduction of the plate, but then this is just more evidence of geologic ignorance and inability to be concise on display. You wouldn’t get past undergraduate structural and plate tectonic geology courses with that assessment. Sad.
Oh and if the Cascades are such a ‘barrier’ you may have to wonder why a potential 9 quake will be felt as far east as at least most of Idaho? That’s from your map too. SMH

BTW - The Seattle Fault has been known for a while as well - but I guess you want to wrap that up in those money grubbing bureaucrats as well.

SMH - your analysis of the regional geology is so miserable on the whole it is worthless to continue any further discussions. Remarkable (or perhaps not so remarkable) is your reading comprehansion skills in regards to what I actually posted - and since you are lacking even in that elementary skill it is further worthless to continue. Go off and enjoy your bubble, you are not worth any further responses.


942 posted on 12/21/2022 5:29:39 AM PST by Godzilla (Never give up, never surrender . . . . . .)
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