Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Johns Hopkins University Newsletter Ran Study Saying COVID-19 'Relatively No Effect on Deaths' in U.S., Then Deleted It After Publication
Red State ^ | 11/27/2020 | Nick Arama

Posted on 11/27/2020 9:01:03 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Earlier this week, Johns Hopkins University Newsletter ran a study from Genevieve Briand, assistant program director of the Applied Economics master’s degree program at Hopkins, that looked at the effect of the COVID-19 on U.S. deaths according to data from the CDC.

What the study concluded and the article said was something quite profound. The study concluded that the virus had “relatively no effect on deaths in the United States.”

So how could that be? How does that match with the facts of over 200,000 people listed as dying from the virus?

How can that be?

After retrieving data on the CDC website, Briand compiled a graph representing percentages of total deaths per age category from early February to early September, which includes the period from before COVID-19 was detected in the U.S. to after infection rates soared.

Surprisingly, the deaths of older people stayed the same before and after COVID-19. Since COVID-19 mainly affects the elderly, experts expected an increase in the percentage of deaths in older age groups. However, this increase is not seen from the CDC data. In fact, the percentages of deaths among all age groups remain relatively the same.

So what Briand was saying was that the number of deaths remained relatively the same for the elderly age group. Why?

When Briand looked at the 2020 data during that seasonal period, COVID-19-related deaths exceeded deaths from heart diseases. This was highly unusual since heart disease has always prevailed as the leading cause of deaths. However, when taking a closer look at the death numbers, she noted something strange. As Briand compared the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018, she noticed that instead of the expected drastic increase across all causes, there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease. Even more surprising, as seen in the graph below, this sudden decline in deaths is observed for all other causes.

This trend is completely contrary to the pattern observed in all previous years. Interestingly, as depicted in the table below, the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19. This suggests, according to Briand, that the COVID-19 death toll is misleading. Briand believes that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may instead be recategorized as being due to COVID-19.

The CDC classified all deaths that are related to COVID-19 simply as COVID-19 deaths. Even patients dying from other underlying diseases but are infected with COVID-19 count as COVID-19 deaths. This is likely the main explanation as to why COVID-19 deaths drastically increased while deaths by all other diseases experienced a significant decrease.

This is not a complete surprise that it be counted so, as people such as Dr. Deborah Birx explained that anyone who died with the virus was being counted, even if that person might also have died with other issues.

But then, after the piece obviously got a lot of attention, the JHU Newsletter pulled the article, saying that “was being used to support false and dangerous inaccuracies about the impact of the pandemic.”

Though making clear the need for further research, the article was being used to support false and dangerous inaccuracies about the impact of the pandemic. We regret that this article may have contributed to the spread of misinformation about COVID-19.

— JHU News-Letter (@JHUNewsLetter) November 26, 2020

People were suprised they were pulling their own article and running it down. JHU Newsletter said that there had been excess deaths according to the CDC and disputed the conclusion of Briand. JHU argues that the people who have comorbidities would be more at risk. That is no doubt true that those with comorbities and other issues would be more at risk. But it doesn’t explain the drop in the numbers of the other illnesses.

HT: PJ Media


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: covid19; johnshopkins; mortality
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-42 next last

1 posted on 11/27/2020 9:01:03 PM PST by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Hmmm...interesting.


2 posted on 11/27/2020 9:04:28 PM PST by Inyo-Mono
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

COVID 19 is a cure for most disease.


3 posted on 11/27/2020 9:04:28 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Science is dead.


4 posted on 11/27/2020 9:04:33 PM PST by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: aimhigh

science is indeed so hopelessly politicized as to no longer exist in any objective or practically useful way.

but we knew that from global-climate-warming-change.


5 posted on 11/27/2020 9:09:31 PM PST by JohnBrowdie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

This is the student newspaper’s analysis that was pulled down and not the actual John’s Hopkins report. The actual John’s Hopkins study remains as issued.

The JHN article was pulled down on Thursday without explanation. The student newspaper on Friday wrote on Twitter that the article was “being used to support false and dangerous inaccuracies” about the impact of the pandemic, and that they “regret that this article may have contributed to the spread of misinformation about COVID-19.”

Briand’s webinar, in which she explained her findings in detail with graphs, is still available on Johns Hopkins University’s YouTube channel.
Briand stands by her analysis. You should have figured out that the vast majority of the article you posted is not in “quotes” of Briand and was rather the analysis of some JH student with an agenda.


6 posted on 11/27/2020 9:09:55 PM PST by Chumdad
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Inyo-Mono

https://www.headlineoftheday.com/2020/11/27/the-facts-about-excess-deaths-due-to-coronavirus/


7 posted on 11/27/2020 9:10:44 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (We flattened the heck out of that curve, didn’t we?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: JohnBrowdie

CAGW damaged science to the point where the nonsense that has been going on with Covid could happen.

See also my comment in this Ivermectin thread, where it is obvious that the doctors/scientists who performed this meta-study are running anonymous because of how screwed up the world and the science establishment is.

Ivermectin is effective for COVID-19: meta analysis of 19 studies
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3910002/posts


8 posted on 11/27/2020 9:12:17 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Our son gave us a heads-up about this development in the last 3 hours.
I just thought to myself, “Well G## D###. The fraud is proven -Again.”


9 posted on 11/27/2020 9:12:33 PM PST by Honest Nigerian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

https://web.archive.org/web/20201126163323/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19


10 posted on 11/27/2020 9:21:01 PM PST by Doofer ( )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

It’s because the author conflated the quantity of deaths with the age-distribution of deaths. They went looking for a spike in the deaths of the elderly - likely due to having read the “it only kills old and sick people” trope too many times without thinking about the fact that most everything only kills old and sick people - and didn’t find one. They apparently assumed that meant that CCP-19 hadn’t killed anybody, rather than understanding that there would be no change in the distribution because the CCP-19 deaths are distributed by age the same way almost everything else is.

The things to look for are not who died, but how they died, and how that affects overall life expectancy. Fewer people will die from some things and more people will die from other things. The questions become whether there was a greater or smaller net loss of life, and how much has life expectancy decreased as a result.


11 posted on 11/27/2020 9:35:12 PM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Chumdad
The student newspaper on Friday wrote on Twitter that the article was "being used to support false and dangerous inaccuracies" about [...]

In the 15th century, that was known as "heresy."

Regards,

12 posted on 11/27/2020 9:43:29 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Only 6% of the 200,000+ Covid19-counted deaths had NO co-morbidities documented on the death certificate, but individual medical record review would be necessary before I would trust any of these numbers. Going with the 6%, that amounts to 12-15,000 deaths out of nearly 3 million deaths in America each year. The other 94% had at least 2-3 serious health problems, respiratory, cardiovascular, diabetes, cancer and on it goes. No diagnostic proof was or is required to presume Covid19 as “present” or causal at time of death.

We have known that 6% estimate for several weeks as reported by myself and others here on FR. CDC clearly states that fact in its weekly mortality report. That 6% could have been killed on the ventilator or died in the nursing home after being denied “non-essential” medical care.

The higher than expected deaths reported in April and May was a PLANNED culling of old and frail people in key “hot spots” to scare the sheeeet out of everyone. It was designed for you to voluntarily give up everything out of fear — your freedom, your common sense, your way of life. OPERATION WARP SPEED started with Trump and continues no matter who is in the WH...keep cooperating with these Tyrants at your own peril. Divide and Conquer brings the whole House down. No proof necessary.


13 posted on 11/27/2020 9:44:50 PM PST by Sioux-san
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Bump


14 posted on 11/27/2020 9:47:02 PM PST by Mears (...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
This suggests, according to Briand, that the COVID-19 death toll is misleading. Briand believes that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may instead be have been falsely recategorized as being due to COVID-19.

The CDC classified all deaths that are related to COVID-19 simply as COVID-19 deaths. Even patients dying from other underlying diseases but are infected with COVID-19 count as COVID-19 deaths. This is likely the main explanation as to why COVID-19 deaths drastically increased while deaths by all other diseases experienced a significant decrease.

No wonder they took this article down - it is in dire need of copy-editing!

Regards,

15 posted on 11/27/2020 9:49:54 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: calenel
The questions become whether there was a greater or smaller net loss of life, and how much has life expectancy decreased as a result.

My understanding is that the article speaks exactly to this issue. My understanding is that the article points out that the overall death rate (among the elderly) has not significantly increased - and that, apparently, the rise in COVID-19 deaths is completely offset by the drop in deaths due to all other causes (heart disease, etc.) - at least among the elderly.

Am I missing something here? If so, please feel free to enlighten me!

This article seems to me to be "spot on."

Regards,

16 posted on 11/27/2020 9:55:55 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

There is no news about the normal, seasonal flu this year. Does Covid-19 cure the flu? Strange times indeed...


17 posted on 11/27/2020 9:56:11 PM PST by bluejean (Living one day at a time in the national psych ward.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I was ahead of the curve on this issue and have already posted a few times that total deaths in US will not increase much at all in 2020. It is not complicated.
Majority dying from covid had serious co-morbidities already meaning they were in very poor health and would soon have died anyways.


18 posted on 11/27/2020 9:59:32 PM PST by entropy12 (Stalin would have loved USA election system as it exists now! )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bluejean

Washing hands and wearing masks has reduced flu cases. And the normal candidates for flu are catching covid first.


19 posted on 11/27/2020 10:01:55 PM PST by entropy12 (Stalin would have loved USA election system as it exists now! )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3909889/posts

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3910042/posts

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3910154/posts


20 posted on 11/27/2020 10:06:14 PM PST by Drago
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-42 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson