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Trump Now Says Biden Will Have To 'Prove' His 80 Million Votes Weren't Fraudulent Before Giving Up White House
USSA News ^ | 11/27/2020 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 11/27/2020 8:27:11 AM PST by SeekAndFind

In a sharp reversal of earlier comments to reporters, President Trump on Friday said that he'll only leave the White House if Biden can prove the election wasn't fraudulent.

"Biden can only enter the White House as President if he can prove that his ridiculous “80,000,000 votes” were not fraudulently or illegally obtained," tweeted Trump, adding "When you see what happened in Detroit, Atlanta, Philadelphia & Milwaukee, massive voter fraud, he’s got a big unsolvable problem!"

Biden can only enter the White House as President if he can prove that his ridiculous “80,000,000 votes” were not fraudulently or illegally obtained. When you see what happened in Detroit, Atlanta, Philadelphia & Milwaukee, massive voter fraud, he’s got a big unsolvable problem! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2020

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President Trump took questions from reporters on Thursday evening for the first time since Election Day. And after confirming a few days ago via Twitter that he would tell the GSA to formally begin the transition process, the president confirmed to a group of MSM journalists that he would formally surrender power to Biden should Trump's rival win the Electoral College vote.

During the scrum, Trump took about 25 minutes to rehash a series of allegations his legal team has so far made while saying flatly that Biden couldn't have done as well as he did without "fraud".

Reporters of course leapt at the opportunity to ask all kinds of salacious questions: Trump was asked if he’d physically leave the White House if the Electoral College affirms Biden’s victory - Trump replied "certainly I will, and you know that.”

After a round of antagonistic questions, Trump started lashing out at various states for dropping the ball and ruining his chances at a second term, while reiterating that this was "a rigged election...at the highest level".

Trump slammed Georgia’s Republican secretary of state - who penned an op-ed slamming Trump and his supporters - as an “enemy of the people.” He added that he would soon stage a rally in Georgia, where voters return to the polls in early January for a pair of runoff Senate races that will determine control of the Upper Chamber.

Finally, Trump repeatedly returned to questioning Joe Biden’s raw vote total, insisting the Democrat couldn’t have done so well as compared to previous Democratic candidates, although population growth historically drives growth in voting numbers while 2020 led to a particularly charged political atmosphere.

“This is not a candidate that can get 80 million votes,” he said of Biden. “The only way he got 80 million votes is through a massive fraud.”

Trump declined to say if he’d attend Biden’s inauguration, as is the custom for an outgoing president. “I’ll be honest, I know the answer, but I just don’t want to say it yet,” he said, before adding that it's "not right" that Biden has already started picking his cabinet.

Both Trump and Biden stayed close to home for the Thanksgiving holiday. The inauguration for Biden (assuming he does win the EC) would take place on Jan. 20.


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KEYWORDS: biden; electionfraud; trumptweet; voterfraud; votes
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, I’ll probably get flamed too. But I know that at heart President Trump believes in our Constitution. His statements show an encouraging will to keep challenging the dubious results. But they don’t describe a different path to victory than the current lawsuits.

Here’s the root of the issue. To whose satisfaction must Biden prove that enough of his votes were legal to establish his victory? The rule of law in the U.S. says that the courts are the final arbiters. Current lawsuits are putting the legality or illegality of Biden’s votes to the test. I believe President Trump will abide by our laws, and accept the courts’ rulings. If the cases are won in the lower courts, or lost and appealed and then selected for review by the USSC, Biden’s majority will be ruled illegal, and all will be well. If this does not happen, our President cannot legally demand to be PERSONALLY satisfied outside of the court system that Biden’s votes were all legal.

It is silly to say a handful of illegal votes disqualify a candidate. If some supporters chose on their own to vote illegally that is beyond the candidate’s control. Each voter must be punished for breaking the law and their vote disqualified. It doesn’t disqualify the candidacy of the person they voted for. If it can be proved that the candidate participated in the crime, that’s a different story, and that’s what the lawsuits are pursuing.

In a system like ours, where the accused is considered innocent until proven guilty, the accused doesn’t have to prove a negative—that voter fraud did NOT occur. The accuser has to prove that voter fraud DID occur, and it has to be proven in court.


81 posted on 11/27/2020 9:24:33 AM PST by edweena
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To: Williams

I smell RINO troll.

Of course Biden has to rebut his own proven fraud.

Don’t you know the rules in the court of public opinion, where the press asks nothing but soft ball pud questions of Biden?

You can hear the testimony Biden must rebut right here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZg6CrxenoM&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0dcSYh2mfZg4xZZof_WdDBJ_Fz-XrBy6VrXbajb_ZFejLjs4F3yUk_D60


82 posted on 11/27/2020 9:25:05 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html) )
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To: shield
As an immutable legal principle, any party that engages in a social contract (such as an election) and then cheats to try to unfairly “win” that contract, is disqualified by default.

Somehow the principle is currently being willfully ignored by the media and the left. President Trump's team does not need to show that enough cheating took place that it definitely changed the result of the election. They only have to show that the cheating was widespread enough that it might have.

Lance Armstrong lost everything... there was no evidence that conclusively showed that the performance enhancing drugs that he now admits that he took, gave him enough of an advantage to ensure his victories. But everything was taken from him because he was cheating and most people feel that it served him right. Biden and the Democrats deserve that fate and much worse. Professional cycling is a spectator sport, the outcomes of the races don't really affect the general populations lives. Biden and Co. have engaged in outright treason. They should be shunned forever.

83 posted on 11/27/2020 9:25:19 AM PST by fireman15
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To: DoodleDawg

Well I’m also skeptical that the MSM will actually take the bait and start posting their objections to Trumps remarks.

But I don’t agree completely with you about the MSM response. Yes, it will be Conspiracy Theory, Conspiracy. Theory, Conspiracy Theory. You are right about that. But no reporting on the issue is our worst enemy. The Hunter Jordan MSM Protection Program proved that to me.

So I don’t expect any change of tone from the MSM but am somewhat hopeful that we will hear more from them about “The Trump Plan To Steal the Election”. Post those stories to Twitter and get people talking about it.

Right now the Biden supporters are totally clueless about the court actions and the actual evidence of fraud. We need to get them talking about it.


84 posted on 11/27/2020 9:25:28 AM PST by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed.)
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To: edie1960

We are in the presence of greatness. Trump is a badass and the greatest LEADER this Country has ever been blessed with.

I’m so proud of him and his devotion to average Americans.


85 posted on 11/27/2020 9:26:13 AM PST by AFret.
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To: billyboy15

I wholly believe in the idea the election was stolen from Trump but isn’t he demanding Biden has the responsibility of proving a negative?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Why not, the Dems did the same to President Trump for 4 years.
Turn about is fair play, don’t you think?


86 posted on 11/27/2020 9:26:25 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html) )
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To: billyboy15

But at that point, will there even BE elections?
I shudder to think of the possibility.


87 posted on 11/27/2020 9:28:12 AM PST by Senormechanico
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To: SeekAndFind

Unfortunately that is not how it works. At this point I think it is more feasible to focus on the fact that the Constitutional authority given to legislatures was just pushed aside to assure state laws were ignored. Ignored so that improper votes could be submitted favoring Biden.


88 posted on 11/27/2020 9:29:26 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: BuckeyeGOP

Because the destruction of evidence has been ongoing. Some of these lawsuits have been aimed at stopping that. The ballot secrecy envelopes that would have established who voted and should have provided a matching signature and should have been kept for 2 years were discarded on election night.

Those votes were still counted anyway.


89 posted on 11/27/2020 9:29:32 AM PST by beancounter13
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To: Bob434

This is going be very interesting……. Everyone knows The Rats cheated big time…. Keep up the good fight Mr. President. Real Americans are with you.


90 posted on 11/27/2020 9:29:37 AM PST by mastertex
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To: beancounter13
True, but as Powell and several other prosecutors have already pointed out, there are enough expert witnesses that provide the preponderance of evidence to win the prosecutorial case.

Then we will see, won't we?

The question becomes, “Who gets to decide?”

The courts of course. Who else?

Sleepy Joe, like any other defendant, needs to be able to refute that evidence.

True. But first the plaintiff needs to present their case. They haven't successfully done that yet.

91 posted on 11/27/2020 9:30:49 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: MIA_eccl1212

Thank you for those distinctions.


92 posted on 11/27/2020 9:34:40 AM PST by caww ( )
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To: DoodleDawg

Preponderance of evidence. Already in the courts.


93 posted on 11/27/2020 9:35:03 AM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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To: Qiviut

Jill is really all in for the coverup. I saw a video of a speech Joe was reading and when he was done he just stood there at the podium with a blank look on his face. Pretty soon you could hear Jill whispering from off state...”Joe...Joe”. Then he looked her way and wandered off stage.

I saw her say with a straight face that “my son (Hunter) has done nothing wrong”. And I heard her say, and the reporter let her get away with it, that “we’re not talking about Joe’s gaffs no way”.

Also saw her looking like she was waving to thouands of people and turned out it was a parade - of 3 cars.

They all know this is a fraud and if she ended up in prison I wouldn’t feel sorry for her.


94 posted on 11/27/2020 9:36:33 AM PST by Aria (- )
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To: DoodleDawg
True, but it is still incumbent on Trump to prove election fraud and not Biden's job to disprove it.

Election fraud by the Democrats has already been proved definitively and without a doubt “nine ways from Sunday”. Everyday we are inundated with more proof than anyone can adequately contemplate. The only question is too what level arbitrary and ridiculous standards will be put in the Trump legal team's path. As other's have pointed out in social contracts such as elections along with sporting events... cheaters are disqualified without regard to the extent of the cheating.

95 posted on 11/27/2020 9:36:51 AM PST by fireman15
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To: Candor7
Trump has built a prima facie case that the election was conducted fraudulently. Now Biden must rebut it. President Trump is right.

Ding, ding, ding - we have a thread winnah!

96 posted on 11/27/2020 9:37:03 AM PST by GOPJ (VOTER FRAUD UNDERMINES AMERICAN DEMOCRACY)
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To: MIA_eccl1212
Stop lying to people and telling them that the claims are baseless.

Media's claim not mine.

The evidence is clear it is preponderant and people who continue to discount multiple sworn eye witness testimony after it has been presented under oath in multiple venues, are on the fraudulent side of this election.

Convince a judge of that and you're on your way.

97 posted on 11/27/2020 9:38:04 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: bramps

Exactly. He’s just poking the nest with a big stick.


98 posted on 11/27/2020 9:41:43 AM PST by grimalkin (Communism is the final logic of the dehumanization of man. -Fulton J. Sheen)
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To: beancounter13
You are missing a crucial point about preponderance of evidence: when a police officer cites you for speeding, and you claim you weren’t, who is most likely to prevail before the judge?

The police officer first has to prove you were speeding then you can try to prove you weren't. Trump has to prove fraud, Biden doesn't.

99 posted on 11/27/2020 9:43:59 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: shield
any party that engages in a social contract (such as an election) and then cheats to try to unfairly “win” that contract, is disqualified by default

now that will really send demoncrats over the edge

would this also include down ballot dems?

100 posted on 11/27/2020 9:46:12 AM PST by SisterK (its a spiritual war )
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