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Court rules VA must pay veterans' ER bills, a decision that may be worth billions to vets
MSN News ^ | September 10, 2019 | Courtney Kube and Mosheh Gains and Adiel Kaplan, NBC News

Posted on 09/10/2019 8:55:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Department of Veterans Affairs must reimburse veterans for emergency medical care at non-VA facilities, a federal appeals court ruled Monday — a decision that could be worth billions of dollars to veterans.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims said the VA has been wrongfully denying reimbursement to veterans who sought emergency medical care at non-VA facilities, and struck down an internal VA regulation that blocked those payments.

"All of this is unacceptable," said the ruling, which ordered the VA secretary to "readjudicate these reimbursement claims."

Plaintiffs' lawyers say that based on past estimates by the VA, the department is now on the hook for between $1.8 billion and $6.5 billion in reimbursements to hundreds of thousands of veterans who have filed or will file claims between 2016 and 2025.

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TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: judiciary; medicine; veterans
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1 posted on 09/10/2019 8:55:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Are the visits from an injury received from time in combat?


2 posted on 09/10/2019 8:58:25 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the VA could not provide them with emergency services, and they had genuine emergencies, then these guys and gals deserve every penny back, with interest.


3 posted on 09/10/2019 9:00:19 PM PDT by malach (We live in interesting times.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Active duty personnel do not pay their emergency room bills, which are covered by Tricare.

Why should vets covered by VA have less coverage than active duty personnel?


4 posted on 09/10/2019 9:02:30 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve worried about this. I live 45 miles from the nearest VA Medical center. There are emergency services much closer. At 72 things could happen to me that would need attention in a matter of minutes. This is important to me.


5 posted on 09/10/2019 9:03:37 PM PDT by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

After going to the local hospital, by way of the emergency room, I decide I will pay the extra thousand bucks to have the ambulance drive me down to the VA.
Even if the VA will pay what my other insurance does not pay, I will go to the VA for the better care.


6 posted on 09/10/2019 9:07:06 PM PDT by fproy2222 (MAGA; The United States of American is still the best place to live and it can become better.)
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To: ConservativeMind

There’s no mention of that, so I doubt it in most cases. I always go to private hospitals when I have an infection or other emergency. Since I’m 100% and “totally and permanently disabled (housebound)” they pay every penny without me even talking to them. For one thing, the food and care are better and the hospitals are closer to home.


7 posted on 09/10/2019 9:10:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Hell taxpayers are paying emergency room bills for illegals EVERY DAMN DAY so YES we should pay for our vets, not a question about it!!!!


8 posted on 09/10/2019 9:11:08 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Captain Compassion

I thought Trump signed an executive order stating our vets could seek medical care where they wished to do so!!!


9 posted on 09/10/2019 9:13:52 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Called the VA when I had an emergency situation arise and told them I was heading on the 3hr trip to my VA Hospital, so be expecting me when I arrived. They told me do not attempt the trip, report to the XXX Hospital Emergency Room 30min away -— we are calling ahead for you and they will be waiting. Arrived at the closer hospital, received emergency care, and all is well.

BUT -—the VA never paid the bill, and they have a rule that says that if the Veteran pays even $1 toward the bill the VA is released from any responsibility and the Veteran must pay the whole bill.

Second time the VA has sent me somewhere else for treatment and then refused to pay the bill. First time kicked my credit rating in the shins for years.


10 posted on 09/10/2019 9:16:54 PM PDT by LTC.Ret
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I know vets who have gone for disability they created themselves to get disability.

It is a golden ticket and they play the system.

If it wasn’t from something gotten in combat, yes, I have a problem with it.

I also have a problem with illegals getting government help.

11 posted on 09/10/2019 9:17:33 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: LTC.Ret

The court just nullified that rule, as I understand it. Call the VA tomorrow and ask for your money.


12 posted on 09/10/2019 9:20:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Some of us have done our (25+) years and never been in combat. During the Cold War I was responsible for a base’s nuclear weapons. For two years my unit provided supplies to the Services throughout the Pacific. Most recently I ran fuels labs around the world, ensuring we had good fuel in prep for and during Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom, made sure planes didn’t crash, drones had their specialized fuel, and Corps of Engineer boats could inspect dams around the US, but never been in combat. Lived away from husband and home for almost 8 years as a reservist after 9-11. Is my service worth less than a combat vet’s? There are a lot of specialized fields needed to allow combat vets to do their jobs. All of us are required to fight and win.


13 posted on 09/10/2019 9:57:54 PM PDT by Truth not Theories (Not all vets fought, but we were all required to fight and win wars.)
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To: exDemMom

Why should a veteran have to pay for ER care when illegal don’t?


14 posted on 09/10/2019 10:03:52 PM PDT by TonyM (Score Event)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

you can read the whole article and be left with no info at all on the underlying legal issues in question

courts appropriating money should always raise an eyebrow


15 posted on 09/10/2019 10:06:36 PM PDT by thoughtomator (... this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s a good deal for vets. Most vets don’t live near an adequate VA facility for emergencies.


16 posted on 09/10/2019 10:06:39 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Our VA hospital is about 40 minutes away. If my husband has an emergency, he goes to the local hospital. He has never had any problems having the VA cover them. He is a retired disabled vet and this is one of his benefits. Used to be, they would transfer him to the VA if he would have to stay more than one night but, not any more.


17 posted on 09/10/2019 10:11:18 PM PDT by ozaukeemom (9/11/01 Never Forget. Never.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Again I say that I have no complaints about the VA. ER visits or otherwise.


18 posted on 09/10/2019 10:13:09 PM PDT by Rannug (When you're dead, you're dead. Until then fight with everything you have.l)
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To: ConservativeMind

These are all veterans who qualify for VA care. There used to be no question that these bills for emergency care out of the system would be paid. Then at some point the VA decided to quit paying- denying some payments by claiming it was not an emergency even with doctors stating that it was. Some they didn’t even bother to deny, they just didn’t pay and drug their feet on doing anything.

Does your insurance pay if you seek care in an emergency?


19 posted on 09/10/2019 10:18:22 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe someday a court will rule that the VA must provide medically appropriate and effective treatment for pain.

Doubt it, though.


20 posted on 09/10/2019 10:51:18 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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