A scenario for the second civil war

Forward Observer ^ | August 30, 2016 | Matt Bracken

[from occupied ga]

I think you're wrong. I think they'll obey orders

To answer that ask yourself three questions

1. Is human nature different today than it was 80 years ago?
2. Is human nature different in the USA than in other countries?
3. Are there precedents where the government told it's minions to violate the fundamental God given rights of it's citizens?

Let's answer these:

1. Human nature is the same now as it has been throughout history
2. Nothing special about the location of the USA that makes it's people any different - still human
3. There are numerous precedents from Pol Pot to Stalin to Hitler to the Vichey French government where the police and the military willingly , enthusiastically, and without regard for the basic right of humans to live, murdered and imprisoned hundreds of millions of their fellow citizens to follow the decrees of a tyrannical government.

So anyone who thinks it can't happen here is terminally and foolishly optimistic. 6 million Jews didn't think that their government would murder them simply because of their ethnicity. Boy were they wrong. Millions of gun owners think that the police and military won't kill them if they resist gun confiscation. History says they're wrong. The police are NOT our friends. They are the agents of the government charged with enforcing the will of the politicians and bureaucrats, and they will do so.

[papertyger]

Many thanks

[Gaffer]

And you gloss over a pre-Civil war letter to someone you say is in 1848. Look, you’re just pissed because of another thread we tangled on. I get that. But I don’t go looking for ANYTHING you’ve posted and ache to contract what you say. You’re just not that important.

[DiogenesLamp]

By your own admission you are thread jumping http://www.freerepublic.com/help.htm#guidelines and continuing some kind of vendetta that is absurd.

I consider my points to be extremely relevant "TO THE TOPIC OF CIVIL WAR IN THE US."

Secondly, I do not have a vendetta against you, my position is the same as it has been for at least the last eight months, and you are but the latest person who has taken a stance opposite mine. (And not doing a very good job of it either.)

If you were arguing on the same side as me, I would not change my arguments or positions to contradict you. I would agree with you. However, you took up a position opposite me, so I treat you just like I treat other people who take up positions opposite with me.

I usually beat them into the ground with facts, evidence, and reasoning.

Oh, and persistence. Also relevant to any discussion about a modern Civil War.

[B4Ranch]

Why don’t you two take your childish argument somewhere else so us adults aren’t pestered by it? I swear you are both behaving like hemorrhoids.

[DiogenesLamp]

Please tell me what Lincoln did, NOT in 1848, but during the conduct of what we seem to dispute as the Civil War even Ken Burns acknowledges. Go away

When people say one thing and do another, we generally refer to this as "Hypocrisy."

It also demonstrates a lack of character.

Ken Burns is but the latest indoctrinated Liberal lackey firming up the propaganda that the North Eastern (Globalist) power block wants people to believe.

[Gaffer]

I agree. I tried to stop. I’ll comment no further. Thanks :0)

[B4Ranch]

ping

[NorthMountain]

As I said, I think they'll obey orders.

You illustrate why it is reasonable to think so.

[from occupied ga]

I agree with you. I was supporting your hypothesis

[DiogenesLamp]

And you gloss over a pre-Civil war letter to someone you say is in 1848. Look, you’re just pissed because of another thread we tangled on. I get that.

You sure do! And like your other positions of which I have became acquainted in the last few days, it is also incorrect.

I have no interest in picking a bone with you because we argued about another issue, I am arguing with you because I consider the causes and consequences of the 1861 war to be very relevant to the same problems we are facing today.

Where is the center of power in this nation? It is in the corridor between Washington D.C. and Boston. *THIS IS NOT AN ACCIDENT.*

Where are the propaganda corps who have been throwing our elections located? They are mostly in New York. *THIS IS NOT AN ACCIDENT.*

There is an elite cadre of "Aristocrats" who have became wealthy over the years through their ability to keep Federal dollars flowing into industries and organizations over which they have control. (We nowadays call this "Crony Capitalism", and it has echos of Nazism.)

They *OWN* the media. That's why it is liberal and has always been Liberal.

As I ponder this issue, I am waking up to the idea that this power block has it's roots back in the mid 19th century. Indeed, it appears to have it's roots in the election of 1860, and Lincoln was it's first unabashed agent of this "Mercantilist" coalition.

This issue is much bigger than you, and you flatter yourself to think that I am being contentious with you because you and I disagree about how corrupt Brazilian cops robbed some American swimmers and then held them for hostage.

I would be arguing this same position had I never heard of you prior to today.

[NorthMountain]

Your line of thinking almost exactly mirrors mine. Like it or not (and I don’t, really), it confirms my conclusion that WTSHTF uniformed officials must be treated as the enemy.

[DiogenesLamp]

Why don’t you two take your childish argument somewhere else so us adults aren’t pestered by it? I swear you are both behaving like hemorrhoids.

It isn't childish, it is extremely relevant in explaining how we got into the mess we are currently in, but one must posses more than the attention span of a child to become aware that this iceberg has more than just a tip.

I work with a wide sweep of history. I try to understand the connections between events, and how they lead to the circumstances we face now.

In order to get an idea of what to expect, you need to have a good grasp of the dynamics that led up to it.

[bgill]

Thank you.

[B4Ranch]

Fine. Take it somewhere else.

[bgill]

Wonder if Obama, Rubio, and Cruz will consider themselves natural born then?

High five.

[bgill]

Your 2nd grade teacher was wrong. It was the war between Americans and d@amn Yankees.

[Liberty Valance]

bttt

[wildbill]

BTTT

[E. Pluribus Unum]

They are going to kill you anyway.