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Gillar Speaks: Sheriff Arpaio's Lead Obama Investigator Unloads; CDC Confirmed 9 Race Code
BirtherReport.com ^ | October 4, 2014 | Mike Zullo interview w/Mark Gillar

Posted on 10/05/2014 3:26:07 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

Transcript @18:50: Mike Zullo: The press conference was three days away and the 9 code was still not resolved in my mind and we needed to get verification. For two feverish days Jerry Corsi sent his associate and this woman stayed in the lobby of the CDC (in Atlanta) for eight hours a day for two days trying to get the answer to this question. On the third day it was about two and a half hours before the press conference was going to go at that point in time the 9 code at issue was NOT going to be in it. As fate would have it, Attorney Larry Klayman happened to be in Phoenix so he stopped in, wanted to say "Hello" to the Sherrif. Larry Klayman, Larry Klayman's associate, Sherrif Arpaio, myself and Jerry Corsi were all in the conference room when the phone rang from the woman from the CDC, and I have her information who she is and she's NOT a clerk. She's a highly educated individual. Jerry put her on speakerphone. I remember Jerry with his fingers crossed. She confirmed for us that what we were saying and requesting...what the number "9" meant...was in fact what it was! He asked he to repeat it. "Are you saying this "9" in this box yadda yadda yadda means that?" and she said "Yes" and with that verification we put the 9 code back in the press conference.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: joearpaio; naturalborncitizen; obama; selectiveservice
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To: chicken head
I don’t believe miss lee pencil marked those boxes on Obama’s BC., especially a computor generated forged one- I believe the whole thing is pointless to investigate.. I mean it’s forged, but nothing can be believed about it, or retrieve valid information about it..

You are absolutely correct. That BC is a composite of other birth certificates. No telling where that first layer of the forgery came from that has the pencil marks. It could have originated in 1969 or any other year, and that goes for all the forged layers that fill in the information.

It won't make any of a difference because in the first 5 minutes of the next Arpaio/Zullo presser, it will proven beyond any doubt that it is a forgery.

221 posted on 10/06/2014 6:15:48 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Ladysforest

“he can’t be held accountable for her doing that.”

His overdependence on Dr. Corsi made him vulnerable to putting out misinformation.

The next day (July 18th) he went on ABC15 news and talked about an article written 10 to 15 years ago by a guy named Bennett (I suspect he meant the 1955 article by Dr. Charles Bennett).

http://www.wnd.com/files/CHARLESBENNETT.pdf

He used that article as confirmation of what Verna Lee told Dr. Corsi about how BCs were numbered monthly.

“...an article written I believe ten, fifteen years ago by an individual last name Bennett, no relations to the Secretary of State that outlined these procedures. She almost hits it right on the head. I mean she takes it right to the tee. As far as the coding the way they were numerically numbered by batch. She verifies it.”

Only problem the article never spells out when BCs were numbered. Never even mentions the numbers. In fact Dr. Corsi wrote a WND piece that says the same Bennett article proves that BCs were numbered when they were first registered.

http://www.wnd.com/2011/05/299781/

I suspect Zullo didn’t read Dr. Bennett’s article but went completely off what Corsi told him it said.


222 posted on 10/06/2014 6:19:07 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: Red Steel

“... in the first 5 minutes of the next Arpaio/Zullo presser, it will proven beyond any doubt that it is a forgery.”
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Or, if not, certainly the one after that.


223 posted on 10/06/2014 6:25:34 PM PDT by BigGuy22
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To: Ladysforest

I got a question for you Lady. The codes were used by the data entry operators to input information into their computer systems for federal and state - correct?

And before 1968, what code(s) were used for ‘unknown or not stated’ for any blank boxes in birth certificates? They must have had a way to inform the data entry operators or whoever processed the information before the year 1968?

I’m sure plenty of mothers even back then may not have had the information about the fathers as an example.


224 posted on 10/06/2014 6:50:19 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: BigGuy22

No, this one is it.


225 posted on 10/06/2014 6:50:57 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Usagi_yo; Ray76

I’m sorry. I said I was done with you, UY but I looked back here and see that you’re doing the same thing with Ray as you did with me. You’re accusing him of not answering your question - which you then repeat ad nauseum - when in fact he DID answer your question and you just don’t have either the wit or the honesty to recognize it. I’ve seen 2 or 3 posts by Ray, and he clearly says that an ineligible person cannot be President, and we cannot know whether Obama is eligible. Is Obama President? (that’s your question) Ray’s answer is obviously that we have no way of knowing until SCOTUS rules on whether he is eligible, since he cannot be President if he is not eligible.

This is basic comprehension. Maybe a junior-high skill level.

Ray, I think this is a troll, meant to keep sane people pulling their hair out. It’s like trying to argue with a 2-year-old.


226 posted on 10/06/2014 8:39:08 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: Usagi_yo

Ray has never said that SCOTUS determines the Constitutionality of the Constitution.

He’s said that SCOTUS is the proper authority to INTERPRET the Constitution’s provisions. I would add that the Constitution lists cases in which the judiciary is to rule in matters of LAW and matters of FACT - either in their original jurisdiction or in appeals.

There is NOT ONE Secretary of State who could have actually found Obama eligible, because there IS NO LEGALLY VALID US BIRTH CERTIFICATE FOR OBAMA. How could any of those 50 SOS’s find Obama eligible when the HI registrar could not verify who his parents are, where he was born, or when he was born? Exactly HOW did they find him eligible without knowing any of those things - ALL OF WHICH factor into a person’s eligibility?

The fact of the matter is that they all - every last stinkin’ one of them - abdicated their duties and violated their oath of office. And every last stinkin’ one of them was informed in advance that the HI registrar had refused to verify any of Obama’s birth facts. They all knowingly broke their oaths. EVERY ONE OF THEM.

Your reasoning seems to be that as long as they all raped us, it must not have been rape at all.

Sick.


227 posted on 10/06/2014 8:53:20 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: 4Zoltan

I recall seeing that article. I haven’t been able to find it since all this was in the presser. But I do remember reading it.

Yes, Zullo relied heavily on Corsi at first. Corsi, I got the impression, wasn’t entirely forthcoming about his SOURCES. Zullo woke up to that fact, and had to do a ton of follow up research. Most of Corsi’s stuff came from responsible bloggers who did real research, but some was less vetted than it should have been. The material from The Daily Pen is a prime example.

I expect Zullo did read whatever was available from Bennett.

My stuff is almost entirely collected by myself or close associates and can be proven to be legit. Other little bloggers do the same.


228 posted on 10/06/2014 9:11:12 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: chicken head

The courts have ruled that it is nobody’s business. Obama could confess to us all that he was put into place as a Manchurian candidate by a communist-Islamist cabal in league with CIA black ops, all so that he could kill every last one of us...and the courts would STILL say it’s none of our business.

And Congress would still say it’s just a political game.

And those lies - that evil that has its grip on ALL the branches of our government - are why this country is going to Hell in a handbasket - at breakneck speed. We’ve been told that the government is none of our business; it is not answerable to us and there is no legal (non-political) way to hold it accountable. That, right there, is an admission that the United States of America as described in the Constitution NO LONGER EXISTS.

When the government (and “we the people”) allowed the judiciary to make those claims, the chicken’s head was chopped off (no offense)- this republic was dead. All that’s followed since then is just residual flopping around from the nerve impulses that were in the chicken when it was still alive. The “politics” goes on as usual but Constitutional America is dead and just waiting for the political processes to finally be dead too. And we’re getting there quickly.

IOW, the answer to EVERY question any of us might have about whether the government is committing crimes is “At this point, what difference does it make?” There is no rule of law. There is no accountability. There is no United States of America. There is no lawful way to stop any regime from doing whatever they want.

Which means the pressure cooker has no pressure release valve. Anybody who’s used a pressure cooker knows what that means. And all those who claim that our Constitution was MADE to have no pressure release valve - no way for the people to get redress for the grievances the government has committed against its people - are only propelling us closer and closer to what we all know is inevitable, and at this point I believe imminent unless something major is done to re-establish that this is government of the people, by the people, and for the people. It IS our business.


229 posted on 10/06/2014 9:13:13 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: Red Steel

The only thing I noticed in the Federal manual - which is the only thing we are really talking about here - are

codes for nativity:

Native ... 1

Foreign ... 2

Unknown ... X

It instructs that if the parents races are omitted or unknown code 1 (white).

Images of the relevant manual pages are at the link below.

http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2012/07/26/did-corsi-lie-to-zullo-a-real-1961-vital-statistics-instruction-manual/


230 posted on 10/06/2014 9:17:59 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Red Steel

I just reread your question, the only mention I see for unknown is the value X.

If one parents race is committed code the child as the same race as the parents race that was provided.


231 posted on 10/06/2014 9:20:58 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Ladysforest

GAH! OMITTED, not committed. Off to bed for me.


232 posted on 10/06/2014 9:21:50 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Ladysforest
Look again at the annual statistics table. They have the classification of "Korean" and "Puerto Rican". Korean doesn't appear at all in the Federal coding scheme and Puerto Rican is lumped in with Caucasian. Those two categories would have to have separate code numbers in their coding scheme. Isn't that why you code in the first place? Doesn't coding break out the categories you want to study?

"That looks like a 7 to me."

Might be a two.


233 posted on 10/06/2014 9:56:08 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: Ladysforest
Mine isn’t new. It’s been out since shortly after the presser where Zullo discussed the codes.

That may well be. I just hadn't read it before. I probably started skimming the Zullo topics around about the tenth "we'll soon be announcing earth-shattering evidence!!!" announcement.

The idea that the Federal codes were meant as a way to record what was on the state birth certificates, not for the state employees to encode what was on their own certificates, is so obvious that I'm annoyed with myself for not having thought of it before.

234 posted on 10/06/2014 10:04:32 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: butterdezillion

well said.. well, don’t give up yet. I believe there is still hope, but it will take overwhelming evidence to open peoples eyes.. I said along time ago, if he’s caught it will be because of his social security number..Thats the only way i see him getting caught.. Harry Bounel used that SS# number out in the world, eather getting a job, got arrested or ticket, hospital, taxes,death certificate, something..but if that SS# is found used on a solid document with another name on it, obama is toast.. Its out there sitting in a file somewhere waited to be discovered. I hope anyway..That’s exactly where Zullo should be focusing his investigation and tracing the footsteps of harry bounel

http://www.wnd.com/2011/08/336889/


235 posted on 10/06/2014 10:33:08 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: chicken head

When a police officer is investigating a Illegal Alien, they focus on the person that the idenity was stolen from.. Its no differ than Obama.- Thats the whole issue of all of this, is that he is using another idenity, and forged ID’s.. Thats it.. Zullo should be shaking the bushes and see what falls out, and send peeps in harry bounel’s foot steps.. someone should sue harry bounel for his property and see who shows up for court—lol JK..


236 posted on 10/06/2014 11:04:53 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: 4Zoltan

Puerto Rican was coded as white for Fed stats. According to the Fed manual, Korean was likely coded as “other non-white”. I don’t have the answer for you as to why the Feds did it that way, except that this is for race, not nativity. Spanish, Puerto Ricans, etc. are considered Caucasian.


237 posted on 10/07/2014 6:35:27 AM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

Unless you read the manual, and summaries, and re-read them, then applied what you had learned to what was ON the BCs, why it was there, when it was applied, and used a little logic, you wouldn’t have been in a position to figure it out.

If you weren’t intensely interested in it for some reason, you wouldn’t have put yourself through all that.

LOL, I take it you never read my research on the obama birth announcements? Too bad I can’t actually write - I’d have a lot more readers. I do unbiased amateur research, and when I write about my findings I do it in a way that includes the process/journey. Most people can’t slog through it :).


238 posted on 10/07/2014 6:44:54 AM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Ladysforest
"I don’t have the answer for you as to why the Feds did it that way"

I'm saying that I believe the Hawaii state codes include statistical codes for Korean and Puerto Rican. And it is possible this table from the state of Hawaii reflects those codes.

We know for certain that the Hawaiians code for Caucasian is 1, if that is a 2 and not a 7, then 2 is Hawaiian and 3 is part-Hawaiian. So the first three entries on the table match what would be Hawaiian coding scheme.

The only question is do the other races listed in the table line up.

A copy of Virginia Sunahara's death certificate should list her race (Japanese/Korean). I wonder if they code those.

http://www.wnd.com/files/2012/09/SUNAHARA-short-form-COLB.jpg

239 posted on 10/07/2014 7:41:08 AM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

I don’t have any guess as to what those local codes may or not not have been.

My own way of thinking is that unless there is a manual found, it is useless to guess.

Interesting to wonder about, useless to guess.


240 posted on 10/07/2014 8:26:43 AM PDT by Ladysforest
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