Posted on 05/14/2014 5:17:41 AM PDT by iontheball
Nope, I never stop with the Believable Stuff! :-)
“What I immediately noticed with Obama’s BC, is that the fields are not left justified. It appears that whomever typed the document, attempted to center the input into the form fields - this makes ZERO sense. The person responsible for generating this birth certificate (if generated at the named hospital), would be responsible for typing MANY BC’s every day - that is probably their main (if not only) job function. Why would they try to center the data on Obama’s? They wouldn’t.”
You’re exactly right. As someone that learned on a manual typewriter and used one at the beginning of my working career, I could tell at first glance that the BC was forged. Whoever forged it didn’t have a clue what they were doing in regarded to making it authentic to the time. These past six years have made me physically ill when I think how this country has been usurped by a criminal.
What are you, willfuly blind?
How can you post on this thread when you don’t even know that a document expert filed a sworn affidavit that Obama’s BC is a forgery?
Go look it up- you are too stupid to believe anythign I say- research it for yourself (which you should have done in the first place)
Apparently, neither is the moderator on “Free” Republic.
Zoltan you’re a moron - don’t bother me anymore
these are not the pictures with the different window configuration
you pretend Zullo’s forged document affidavit does not exist, when you can easily look it up for yourself, and you show me an unrelated picture about the plane windows and go “see??”
If you dont want to believe that’s ok, but stop showing everyone your idiocy
It would seem that you are the one who has done no research.
You made the claim that “Barack Obamas own document forgery expert” filed a “SWORN AFFIDAVIT”, I know for a fact that is not true. So I asked you to proved a link to the “SWORN AFFIDAVIT”. Apparently you can’t. Not surprising as it doesn’t exist.
Now other people who claim to be document experts but whose resumes show no formal training in the science and who are not in anyway connected to Obama, have filed sworn affidavits. In fact, one of them, Doug Vogt, is going to have his case dismissed by the Supreme Court on Monday.
Now here is a little free research for you:
The document expert referred by you as “Barack Obamas own document forgery expert” is Reed Hayes. He was hired by the Cold Case Posse to look at Obama’s LFBC PDF. He report a 40 page report which has never been released or submitted in any form to any court. His report is not a “SWORN AFFIDAVIT”. Back in the mid-1990s, he did some unspecified work for a former attorney who at the time worked for Perkins Coie, the law firm that currently has Obama as a client.
geez you’re a dumbass...
instead of googling zullo’s report you insist on telling me it does not exist
well here is JUST ONE OF MANY links you can find, where the document expert used by team Obama’s lawyers has now signed and affidavit stating the Obama BC is a fraud.
read it and shut up
http://www.storyleak.com/obama-birth-certificate-confirmed-forgery-according-top-experts/
Mr K., Reed Hayes submitted a 40 page report, not a affidavit, to Mike Zullo of the Cold Case Posse. Mike Zullo, at the request of Attorney Larry Klayman in the McInnish v. Chapman case in Alabama, submitted his own 207 point affidavit to the AL Supreme Court. In his affidavit he only mentions what Reed Hayes did in points 42 thru 44. He never mentions Reed Hayes by name nor did Zullo present Reed Hayes 40 page report to the AL Supreme Court justices. The justices dismissed the appeal. These are the facts
Read points 42 to 44:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CLXGMmzWDSxZBCLNaFpo8ZgeYFcXUvEuFRcS8IGf1GE/edit?pli=1
“The document expert referred by you as Barack Obamas own document forgery expert is Reed Hayes. He was hired by the Cold Case Posse to look at Obamas LFBC PDF. He report a 40 page report which has never been released or submitted in any form to any court. His report is not a SWORN AFFIDAVIT. Back in the mid-1990s, he did some unspecified work for a former attorney who at the time worked for Perkins Coie, the law firm that currently has Obama as a client.”
That would be correct.
Until someone goes to a real judge and convinces that judge to issue a court order for release and inspection of the “ORIGINAL” hard copy Obama Certificate of Live Birth, which is stored in the office safe of the Hawaii Registrar of Vital Statistics, analyses such as Reed Hayes’ will remain unconvincing to Congress or the Courts.
Its like trying to determine if the Mona Lisa that hangs in the Louvre Museum in Paris is fake by only analyzing computer generated reproduced images of the painting. The original MUST be compared to the digital copies.
Under Hawaiian law, the original birth certificate can be released to: “a person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;” [Hawaii Revised Statutes 338-18(b)]
Why would I google Zullo’s report? He is not a trained document examiner nor does he work for Obama (well, there are some who would debate that point). But Reed Hayes has not submitted an affidavit to any court not has his 40 page report been released.
In fairness to Mr. K, in the story he linked in post 48, Grace Vuoto does quote Mike Zullo as referring to it as an affidavit. So maybe somewhere there is a separate affidavit and a separate 40 page report. Neither of which have been publically released.
I smelled that stench as soon as he walked in the door.
Just why would anyone accept Jamesee77's testimony or affirmations, even if they are what he calls his "best" ones?
Isn't it marvelous that he has divined the intent of those that have manipulated the computer software? OTOH, maybe he knows those software geeks personally. No. I guess that's just what comes naturally after that much bloviating and lying for so long.< /s >
HF
I gather that's why forgery, conspiracy to commit fraud, and misprision carry such high, felony penalties, eh?
When experts are willing to stake their reputations and file affidavits affirming forgery, we really should take note that what has transpired is a set of very serious crimes.
These are not things to be treated as you have so apologetically treated this and related subjects throughout your time on FR.
HF
“Why would I google Zullos report? He is not a trained document examiner...”
But the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office deals with forgeries committed by civilians all the time. Zullo has available the resources they use to investigate forged documents, checks, etc.
It works both ways. Members of a Republican administration in Hawaii in 2008-2009 under Governor Linda Lingle risked perjury, misprision of felony and obstruction of justice charges when they issued official statements of authentification for Obama’s birth certificate.
The Registrar of Vital Statistics for the state of Hawaii has issued three Certified Letters of Verification for Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth. Two letters were sent to Republican Secretaries of State in Arizona and Kansas and one was prepared for a Reagan-appointed federal judge in Mississippi, Henry T. Wingate.
They didn’t seem to use them, they used Reed Hayes. And all the other CCP experts cited so far had no association with the MCSO before this investigation started. And Zullo himself said he contacted over 200 document examiners and none would take the job until he found hayes.
“And Zullo himself said he contacted over 200 document examiners and none would take the job until he found hayes.”
Did you ever take into consideration that Zullo could have been bluffing?
Personally I think he’s bluffing every time he opens his mouth, but how does that alter the facts about the Reed Hayes report?
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