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Would Americans Actually Dare Revolt Against This Abusive Government?
ClashDaily.com ^ | 12/9/13 | Donald Joy

Posted on 12/11/2013 9:34:25 AM PST by IChing

America’s Founding Fathers spelled it out pretty clearly: The purpose of government is to secure the God-given, inalienable rights of men. They put that exact language into The Declaration of Independence.

They also spelled out, exactly, that when government becomes abusive, and “destructive of these ends,” it is mankind’s right and duty to alter, abolish, or overthrow it.

You may have seen the recent news about prominent and well-spoken experts testifying before Congress regarding the Obama administration’s shocking usurpations and out-of-control excesses, especially the utter lack of regard for Constitutional limits on the powers of the executive branch. The testimony was remarkable in that the prospect of possible citizen uprising and revolt was brought up repeatedly. I can’t recall in my lifetime this ever having happened before, in such an official, high-level on-the-record context before the cameras and klieg lights.

The question that comes to my mind foremost is not whether such outright revolt is justified or warranted. The question is whether enough of us have the will and the wherewithal to carry it out.

Given what millions of us see as plainly egregious high crimes and misdemeanors by Obama and his agents, without adequate redress of our grievances by those who we believe are also largely corrupt–our representatives in Congress–a large chunk of the American population easily pays lip service to the idea of actual revolution, as opposed to more of the same-old, same-old election cycle shenanigans.

But talking and doing are, of course, two very different things.

I realize that by typing these words and sending them out over the cyber-clothesline, I’m somewhat risking a visit from the gestapo. So what. Let them throw me in jail. My wife and son would suffer, but if I’ve learned anything about that woman in the eight years we’ve been married, it’s that she can catch fish just as well or even better than I can on any given day, and probably live off the land if she has to. She was pretty much raised that way.

Have we as a society become so soft and accustomed to the comforts of technology and of various government checks & subsidies that too few of us would ever forcefully resist the tyranny that is growing from the power-mad panderers of the Left?

Life certainly is much different today than in the days of the American Revolution. Not only are people generally much more dependent on vast, highly-advanced, complex, specialized, and bureaucratic systems and technology which have removed them so much from the concept and practice of self-reliance in nature of those more primitive times, but anyone contemplating some kind of active defiance of the status quo has to consider also the comparatively extremely lopsided scenario such a prospect involves where it comes to actual weapons systems, intelligence networks, command and control operations, and logistics.

George Washington’s regulars, guerrillas, mercenaries, and Minutemen were long-shot underdogs against a formidable foe, of course, in the vastly better equipped, funded, and armed redcoats of King George. However, the muskets, horses, and cannon of our Revolutionary fighters were somewhat comparable, in technological sophistication and array, to the similarly primitive (by modern standards) hardware deployed by the crown. Furthermore, having “home field advantage,” all the colonists really had to do was make things so horrible for the king’s forces, much of which had come all the way from across the ocean, that the King eventually just relented rather than continue to try to keep control from all those thousands of miles away.

Nowadays, however, we’re talking about guys (and gals) with handguns, hunting rifles, carbines, and really not much more than that at all, up against the most space-age, entrenched, home-grown federal leviathan of lasers and satellites, nuclear missiles and bomber planes, tanks, aircraft carrier ships, helicopters, jet fighters and cargo planes, AWACS and close-air support planes, refueling tanker planes, smart bombs, infrared and laser-guided weird weapons that can zap and vaporize entire city blocks (I’ve been out of the military too long to even know what the hell these new weapons are), not to mention truly spooky, virtually omniscient surveillance and communications technology along with the government’s presumed ability to shut down any kind of tech networks we might employ.

Real encouraging, isn’t it?

Y’all think we should just stick to trying to vote the bastards out? Or am I missing something?


TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: cwii; cwiiping; neversurrender; revolt; revolution; tyranny
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To: robowombat
East Tennessee bump

Now that's country.

101 posted on 12/12/2013 8:58:24 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Robert Teesdale

Pretty much spot on, Mr. Teesdale.


102 posted on 12/12/2013 9:00:29 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Jack Black

.....That this country could once again break up via a revolt?


103 posted on 12/12/2013 9:59:46 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: IChing

Those who would riot already do

Whites will just suck thumbs and whine


104 posted on 12/12/2013 10:18:07 AM PST by wardaddy (choctaw bingo)
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To: Steely Tom

That was an ineffective minority of kids covered by media as news and rode the coattails of a more popular civil rights movement

The 8 years of Obama will be longer than the actual 60s student turbulence of my youth which ran from 66-72....peaking between Chicago summer 1968 and Bethel NY August 1969

Weatherunderground activities early 70s were anti climatic

We had moved on to Vietnamization ...Watergate.....and worse....much worse.....early disco


105 posted on 12/12/2013 10:26:23 AM PST by wardaddy (choctaw bingo)
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To: Biggirl
.....That this country could once again break up via a revolt?

Yes. I see three main threads of thought: one is that it would take an external event (aka SHTF) such as currency collapse to force this. A second is that the Left will inevitably over reach and this will result in kicking off the backlash. The third scenario which many believe, and is commonly stated here at FR is that nothing will ever happen, the screws will tighten an everyone will grudgingly accept it.

Very few people suggest that the resistance will one day just kick things off. Even the groups planning for SHTF seem bound and determined not to be goaded into firing the first shot.

But one thing I have seen is more and more people coming to accept that we are not going to vote our way out of the leftist coercive super-state that now sits upon us. That's a difference from a 8 or 9 years ago.

106 posted on 12/12/2013 11:07:38 AM PST by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Jack Black
I agree with you. More people don't trust government than before Obama. I have heard more formerly non-political friends talking about feeling that the US is going the wrong way, and that something has to be done. A group of late teens, early 20's kids are talking about forming a militia. Guys and girls are buying and learning to use guns. They're blogging against Obama and Dems.

I figure within a decade we will have some type of overthrow attempt, whether it's peaceful or not, remains to be seen.It took a while from when Revolution and Civil War was first mentioned until those events began in earnest.

107 posted on 12/12/2013 12:10:32 PM PST by Betty Jane
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To: wardaddy

Yup.


108 posted on 12/12/2013 12:40:55 PM PST by IChing
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To: firebrand

By implication:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/12/04/turley_obamas_become_the_very_danger_the_constitution_was_designed_to_avoid.html


109 posted on 12/12/2013 12:42:57 PM PST by IChing
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To: Tigen

You’re delusional. Single women are giving democrats victories in national and state elections. Virginia, recently, especially.


110 posted on 12/12/2013 12:44:31 PM PST by IChing
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To: pgkdan

Or the size of the surveillance state and ease of data collection.


111 posted on 12/12/2013 1:14:32 PM PST by tbw2
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To: IChing

Oh yes, I remember that. That one could have applied to impeachment only, though. Had trouble accessing the link you provided.


112 posted on 12/12/2013 1:54:38 PM PST by firebrand
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To: IChing

See tagline.


113 posted on 12/12/2013 2:04:21 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Also, let’s face it. The military has us outgunned with trillions of dollars worth of cutting-edge high tech weapons that WE paid for. As much as we all love our guns, we aren’t much of a match for them.

Arithmetic is our friend:

The Taliban in Afghanistan
Some military analysts estimate that there are approximately 25,000 Afghan insurgents with varying degrees of allegiance to the Taliban, but assessments of the group's relative strength vary.

One Crossroads of the West gunshow hosts more American citizens than this in a weekend.

114 posted on 12/12/2013 2:22:30 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Also, let’s face it. The military has us outgunned with trillions of dollars worth of cutting-edge high tech weapons that WE paid for. As much as we all love our guns, we aren’t much of a match for them.

I don't know about that. We know where they and their families live, work, go to school and play.

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against an Army.....?

115 posted on 12/12/2013 5:16:49 PM PST by Jed Eckert (Wolverines!!)
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To: Betty Jane
I agree with you. More people don't trust government than before Obama. I have heard more formerly non-political friends talking about feeling that the US is going the wrong way, and that something has to be done. A group of late teens, early 20's kids are talking about forming a militia. Guys and girls are buying and learning to use guns. They're blogging against Obama and Dems.

I figure within a decade we will have some type of overthrow attempt, whether it's peaceful or not, remains to be seen.It took a while from when Revolution and Civil War was first mentioned until those events began in earnest.

You know there is another possibility. I was talking to a friend a while ago who is a a pragmatic middle-of-the-road politically (voted for Bush and Obama!) with socially-liberal tendencies (doesn't understand how anyone could object to gay marraige, etc.). I told him I thought the USA was on it's last legs, and was going to sooner rather than later go through a revolution of some kind.

Initially he scoffed at me. I asked him to remember back to the fall of the Soviet Union, and whether anyone forsaw that. He certainly didn't. The CIA famously didn't. None of the big-name political gurus like Kissinger were on record with a prediction of it falling. So that one at least, just happened!

The USSR ended because no one really believed in what it was supposed to be anymore. The ruble was worthless, the government was corrupt, the workers paradise was a horrible place to work, etc. When push came to shove the Red Army wasn't even a factor in fall of the USSR, it just kind of faded away. The reason it could was because there were real States inside it, many of whom had hated being in the USSR since their forced joining.

Not every nation can fall apart so gracefully, but surprisingly the USA might be one that can. We do have a lot of States with varying fidelity to the idea of "United". We certainly have "captive states" historically, in terms of the Civil War States which are in the USA for the same reason that Poland was tied to the USSR. They lost.

More and more people will believe in the USA less and less. The Obamacare debacle is epic and groundbreaking. The last thing the USA failed at so visibly was Vietnam (and of course that was a self-goal). As the government loses legitimacy more and more people will just want it to go away. Maybe all it will take is one drunk mayor standing on a tank, a tank driven by a soldier who thinks the PC Army is a joke and could care less if a drunk mayor stands on it.

That's about all it took to crash the largest empire on Earth in the late 20th century.

One down, one to go?

116 posted on 12/12/2013 6:00:29 PM PST by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“We still don’t have control of the Taliban.”

...much less the very bases we supposedly created and dominate. It’s a zoo over there.


117 posted on 12/12/2013 6:09:33 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: glorgau
That's called "decimation".

I once heard somebody talking about a force being "decimated to the last man"! I'm thinking "I don't think that word means what you think it means"

118 posted on 12/12/2013 6:37:01 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: hadaclueonce

Hehehe


119 posted on 12/12/2013 6:38:24 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Everybody wants to reach for a gun when all they need to do is earn enough less to be tax exempt. We don’t even have to work hard - just starve them at every opportunity.

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except that doesn’t work anymore. If you are earning less you will be thrown on obmamacare medicaide and all your assets will be removed.


120 posted on 12/12/2013 7:29:36 PM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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