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To: Constitution 123
Do you Jeff Winston believe that the document represented as Obama’s Long form Birth Certificate posted on the official White House website is a copy of of the actual document?

Yes.

Now. WHY do I believe that?

1) We have photographs of the actual paper document. And you can see, clearly: It's a paper document, with everything right where it's supposed to be. It also has the appropriate seal on it.

2) (Relatively minor point, because I don't necessarily trust the media:) A prominent journalist handled the physical document and publicly stated that she handled the paper document and felt its raised seal.

3) As far as I can tell, every single significant claim ever made by birthers has been shown, by someone, to be bullsh*t.

4) There have been DOZENS of such claims.

5) When someone makes dozens of bullsh*t claims IN A ROW, without even ONE such claim holding up to examination, what are the odds that their next claim to "prove" the same thing is going to be anything other than bullsh*t?

Not very good.

6) Except for stuff that can be and has been explained by compression of the image, the PDF looks just like the photos of the paper document.

7) The State of Hawaii has officially testified again and again that Obama was born in Honolulu. Not just Democrats but Republicans have testified to this.

8) See point #3. It's well worth repeating.

Obviously, there are people who don't care what the actual truth is. If it "favors" our side, then it's "true."

That's nothing but lying propaganda.

As conservatives, we have the truth on our side. We don't have to and should not resort to trying to promote our interests through repeated falsehoods and lies.

137 posted on 07/05/2013 6:14:03 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston

“””””When someone makes dozens of bullsh*t claims IN A ROW, without even ONE such claim holding up to examination, what are the odds that their next claim to “prove” the same thing is going to be anything other than bullsh*t?.....”””
“”””...Except for stuff that can be and has been explained by compression of the image, the PDF looks just like the photos of the paper document.
“”””

Multiple document experts have examined at the 9 Layer issue and concluded that it could not possibly appear that way as a result of compression. No one has challenged them since. Yet, you cling to that false explanation as though it is the truth. Why?
You Also just dismiss the many month careful through investigation by Sheriff Arpaio. AND also every point we make even when your so obviously wrong.... This is why we say you are intellectually dishonest. People here are angry with you because You compose long winded posts are like a what an attorney does when they are trying to confuse a jury as they represent a guilty client. I for one do not want you banned..... I am willing to test my conclusions against any opposition .... including yours.


145 posted on 07/05/2013 6:57:05 PM PDT by Constitution 123
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