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To: Durus

I would classify myself as a progressive who’s a member of the Democratic party until something better comes along.

I think my progressive buddies and I feel the same way about the Democratic party that you and your conservative buddies feel about the Republican party so I can commiserate with you.


39 posted on 03/13/2013 10:11:50 AM PDT by ksen (". . . organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy" - Matt Taibbi)
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To: ksen

“I would classify myself as a progressive who’s a member of the Democratic party until something better comes along.

I think my progressive buddies and I feel the same way about the Democratic party that you and your conservative buddies feel about the Republican party so I can commiserate with you.”

One of these days, both sides (grass roots that is) will figure out we’re all in this boat together, and if we don’t stop playing gotcha, we’ll ALL sink together.


44 posted on 03/13/2013 10:27:02 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: ksen
I would classify myself as a progressive who’s a member of the Democratic party until something better comes along.

"Progressive" usually means something along the lines of wanting more and more government programs to make everything "fair" -- or essentially leftist redistributionism. Thus, from your comment, I take it you are a classic leftist who is dissatisfied with the Democrat party because it isn't far left enough and isn't dismantling what is left of our capitalist economy fast enough, but you still belong to the party because it is the closest thing we have to a true socialist party. Does that about sum it up?

48 posted on 03/13/2013 10:38:19 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: ksen

The Democrat party have never been more “progressive” (a classic Democrat misnomer) than it is today. Neither has the Republican party, so I sincerely doubt you can commiserate with me.


51 posted on 03/13/2013 10:54:40 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: ksen

Are you aware that calling yourself progressive is circular thinking?

Most Americans automatically assume “progress” is a good thing, although all it means is advancement towards a goal. Thus advancement towards Nazi, Communist or Islamist domination of the world is perfectly progressive in the real meaning of the term. As would a movement in America to return to the original principles of the Founders.

However, the way it is used in America begs the question of the goal. It is automatically assumed that “progress” consists of movement towards the goals believed in by “progressives.” Which is why the reasoning is circular.

Liberal in the actual meaning of the word (though not in the American political sense) means a goal of freedom. Socialist means a goal of economic as well as political equality.

But Progressive begs the question of what constitutes Progress, which makes it a meaningless term.

YMMV


78 posted on 03/13/2013 5:10:15 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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