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To: butterdezillion

I think that you are forgetting that it is the vote of the Electors that decides who is President. In 2000 no candidate received a simple majority of the popular vote. Gore had more popular votes than Bush, but Bush won in the electoral college with a majority of the Electors.
There have been a few other elections where no candidate got a simple majority. You need a majority of the Electors, then you need to have your Electoral votes certified in a Joint Session of Congress where one Representative and one Senator can raise an objection to Vladimir Putin’s Electoral votes. I’m betting that Rand Paul and Michelle Bachman, at the very least would object to Vladimir Putin claiming to be born in America.
Barack Obama, on the other hand has two verifications of his birth in Hawaii from Dr. Chiyome Fukino, former Hawaii Director of Health, one confirmation from Loretta Fuddy the current Director of Health, three Letters of Verification from Dr. Onaka, Hawaii state Registrar, confirmations from former Governor Linda Lingle and current Governor Neil Abercrombie, a House of Representatives Resolution stating that he was born in Hawaii which passed the House 378-0 (H. Res. 593, 111th Congress, 2009) and ten state and federal court decisions explicitly or implicitly declaring him to be a natural born citizen. Here’s an excerpt from one of the ten:
Rhodes v MacDonald, US District Court Judge Clay D. Land: “A spurious claim questioning the president’s constitutional legitimacy may be protected by the First Amendment, but a Court’s placement of its imprimatur upon a claim that is so lacking in factual support that it is frivolous would undoubtedly disserve the public interest.”—US District Court for the Middle District of Georgia, September 16, 2009.
All told, there have been 201 original jurisdiction challenges to Obama’s eligibility, 70 state and federal appellate level rulings and 24 appeals to the Supreme Court of the United States, no ruling has found Obama to be ineligible or to not qualify as a natural born citizen.

I sincerely doubt that Vladimir Putin could amass that much support for his status as a natural born citizen.


690 posted on 03/09/2013 11:32:31 PM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

Blah blah blah.

If Vladimir Putin was elected as President and acted as President, would it violate the 2nd Article of the Constitution and the 20th Amendment? Answer the question.

When pressed to disclose the records on which Fukino based her public statements, Deputy AG Nagamine ended up saying to my colleague that it was based on Obama’s name being in the birth index. I have proven that the 1960-64 birth index was altered to include specific names from non-valid records. I have not seen any afterbirther deal with that fact. At all. It’s like the plague. Why did they alter that index? If we take Fukino at her word, then, none of her statements mean anything because they were based on a FABRICATED birth index.

The only LAWFUL, OFFICIAL word we’ve got is from Alvin Onaka, when asked in a legal procedure. The only time he was ever asked to verify any birth facts for Obama, he would not verify that Barack Hussein Obama, II, male, was born on Aug 4, 1961 in Honolulu on the island of Oahu to Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama. When he was asked to verify that the White House image was a “true and accurate representation” of the HI record he would not. When he was asked to verify that the information contained in the White House image was identical to the information in the HI record he would not. He is required by statute to verify anything he can, when asked by a qualified requestor.

IOW, he has effectively confirmed that the White House image is NOT a true and accurate representation of the HI record, that the information contained in it is not identical to the information in the HI record, and that he cannot confirm even that Obama is male or that he who claims to have been born in Honolulu was actually born on the island of Oahu.

The only logical reason that Onaka could confirm what he did, refuse to confirm what he did, and still claim to be obeying the law (all this on 3 separate, consistent verifications) is if the HI record is legally non-valid. The presumption of regularity means that it is legally presumed that Onaka acted according to the law, as he claimed. IOW, the legal presumption at this point has to be that Obama’s HI BC is legally non-valid.

Which also happens to explain why Fukino based her claims on a birth index that was altered to include individual non-valid names.

And also happens to explain why the White House had to forge a COLB and a long-form, and why his draft registration had to be forged, why he doesn’t have a valid US social security number and fails e-verify, why his passport had to be breached 3 times, why he claimed until 2007 that he was born in Kenya, and why Soros’ people have threatened the media heads with annihilation and/or death if they allowed Obama’s ineligibility to be reported. It also explains why the 2 people who agreed to present a petition for Hillary to be able to challenge Obama’s eligibility at the DNC Convention in 2008 died very shortly after agreeing to do it, which necessitated Phil Berg filing a federal lawsuit the day after the 2nd volunteer died.

There’s much more I could say - stuff that is explained by this reality - but it’s wasted on you. You won’t even deal with the blatant stuff I just mentioned above.

I have one thing left to say specifically to you, then: One Day the truth will be known, and Obama, Soros, and all the rest who sided with them will bow to the truth. Until then, say what you want - but know that in the end you’ll have to eat every word you’ve said, and the bitter taste will not be worth the gloat you get right now from siding with the hostage-takers. The truth will not be hostage forever. You will do well to remember that. In the end it is Lazarus who has plenty for eternity, not the rich man who so despised Lazarus. Eat your fill of gloat now, if you like, because the memory of the gloating will have to last you through an eternity of regret.


746 posted on 03/10/2013 10:37:34 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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