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To: Mr Rogers
Incorrect. She made it a point, and the court answered - with laughter, if you read between the lines. The court called her an idiot. Politely, but that is what they were saying - that the idea that the 14th made her a citizen was crazy.

What??? This doesn't help your argument. Why would it be crazy that the 14th amendment would make her a citizen?? I can tell you're trying to dig yourself out of the hole, but it's going the other way. There's no reason to do this unless they're making a point that there's a difference between natural-born and 14th amendment citizenship at birth. Dude, if they were calling her an idiot, they would be calling you worse. You keep arguing against yourself. Like I said, there's no way around this. It's time to quit making yourself look dumb and just admit you were wrong before.

1,559 posted on 03/17/2013 9:22:24 PM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919

“There’s no reason to do this unless they’re making a point that there’s a difference between natural-born and 14th amendment citizenship at birth.”

There would only be a difference IF NBC required citizen parents, and Minor refused to explore that possibility. In WKA, the court took the issue up, and decided it did not.

Minor did not attempt to explore the meaning of NBC, since no one ever doubted that someone born in country to 2 citizen parents met the definition. The court went out of their way to say THAT issue wasn’t before them, and they didn’t need to settle it.

With WKA, they did. And in WKA, they determined that the 14th was a restatement of what had always been true of NBC - as Lynch had made clear, and many other cases. But then, WKA was a citizenship case, while Minor was a voting rights case. And with Minor, her method of citizenship was irrelevant. As a naturalized citizen, she still would not have a right to vote.


1,563 posted on 03/18/2013 6:59:47 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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