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To: edge919

“None of your arguments mean anything until you can be honest enough to admit this says her citizenship is due to birth to citizen parents.”

No. She could have been naturalized, and the result would have been the same - no right to vote. She could have been what birthers call a 14th Amendment citizen - a distinction no court makes - but the result of the case would have been identical - no right to vote.

In this case, she also met the narrowest possible definition of NBC, so the court didn’t go any further to examine the limits - as it expressly stated in the opinion. It just didn’t matter. The outcome would have been identical as long as she met ANY possible definition of citizenship, and thus it was not a case about citizenship, but voting rights.

I’ve never met a birther who claimed citizen parents were required to be born a citizen. Do you now make that claim?


1,553 posted on 03/17/2013 8:13:56 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: Mr Rogers
No. She could have been naturalized, and the result would have been the same - no right to vote. She could have been what birthers call a 14th Amendment citizen - a distinction no court makes - but the result of the case would have been identical - no right to vote.

She DID argue she was 14th amendment citizen. It's why the Minor court defined NBC and specifically said the 14th amendment did NOT confer citizenship on her by birth. You keep defeating your own argument. Again, YOU CANNOT GET AROUND THIS. Why would the court say ANYTHING about her having citizen parents?? Unlike the WKA court, the Minor decision was very effecient, while everything it discussed had direct bearing on the case and situation.

In this case, she also met the narrowest possible definition of NBC, so the court didn’t go any further to examine the limits - as it expressly stated in the opinion.

She met the ONLY definition of NBC. There's no "narrowest" about. The Minor court discussed every other way someone can become a citizen, but it exclusively characterized children born of citizens as NBCs. Again, there's NO WAY AROUND THIS.

The outcome would have been identical as long as she met ANY possible definition of citizenship, and thus it was not a case about citizenship, but voting rights.

Sorry, but it was about meeting ANY possible definition of citizenship, then they didn't need to reject her 14th amendment citizenship argument. Again, THERE'S NO WAY AROUND THIS.

I’ve never met a birther who claimed citizen parents were required to be born a citizen. Do you now make that claim?

Nobody cares who you think you've met and what these imaginary people have or haven't claimed. YOU CAN'T GET AROUND THIS. All children born in the country to parents who were its citizens. These are the natural-born citizens.

1,555 posted on 03/17/2013 2:15:18 PM PDT by edge919
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