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Let's get one thing straight, Gunwalker is NOT simply an ATF scandal. It IS an OBAMA scandal.
sipseystreetirregulars ^ | 8 July, 2011 | Mike Vanderboegh

Posted on 07/09/2011 6:15:46 AM PDT by marktwain

The left-collectivist gun confiscationists, unable to ignore the Gunwalker Scandal any longer, are chanting the "Permanent Director, More Gun Control" mantra louder, longer and more frequently now. Here's Pro-Publica: "Embroiled in Controversy, ATF Has Long Been Leaderless and Hamstrung."

Josh Gerstein, writing at Polico asks: "Could controversy kill the ATF?"

The unfolding scandal over a gunrunning investigation allegedly botched by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives could do what years of criticism of the long-beleaguered agency never quite accomplished — result in its demise.

That, at least, is the view of some former ATF employees and advocates on both sides of the gun control debate who have watched the agency struggle to contain the damage from an operation intended to trace the traffic of illegal guns to Mexico that has reignited the harsh criticism often directed at the ATF in the past.

The agency, which moved from the Treasury Department to the Justice Department in 2003, has been without a permanent director for nearly five years. Nominees offered by Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama have languished without approval from the Senate after drawing strong opposition from the National Rifle Association, which for years has been the agency’s loudest critic.

Now, with ATF Acting Director Kenneth Melson hobbled by the scandal over Operation Fast and Furious and by indications he’s at odds with senior Justice Department officials, many are saying a breakup of the storied agency could just be a matter of time.

“I think something like that is likely to happen,” said Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. “Unless they take some action to give it a director, it’s inevitable it’s going to have to get to that stage. It cannot continue the way it’s going now. … Right now, ATF is so weak it’s amazing.” . . .

“I point the finger at Congress. You made it confirmable, so confirm somebody. If not, restructure it. … If this structure doesn’t work, let’s get a structure that does,” Helmke said.

Now folks, when rabid anti-gunners like Helmke get around to accepting the ATF's demise, you've got to ask yourself why. The answer? They are protecting the larger mission -- both the Obama administration and the gun control mission. This scandal is so bad, they know they'll have to give up something. But they also know that the firearm laws of the United States are NOT going to be repealed anytime soon.

As a matter of fact, these schmucks -- both the gun confiscationists and the guilty Gunwalker conspirators -- NEED you to think that this is about the ATF. The more folks focus on the tree of the ATF, the less they're worried about the larger forest of their naked attempt to subvert the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States.

And it is not just Helmke:

Some experts said the ATF, a successor to Treasury’s Prohibition Unit that once counted crimefighter Eliot Ness among its ranks, has outlived its usefulness.

“Even the name of the organization, it’s from the black-and-white movie era,” said Jim Kessler of Third Way, a centrist Democratic group. “I don’t think it should exist. The investigations should be subsumed within the FBI, and the licensing could be done by Treasury, which is a tax-collecting agency.”

Oh, right. Let's give it to the FBI, the same agency that we now know did its best to cover-up the circumstances of Brian Terry's murder by letting go three men apprehended at the murder scene and the same agency who had a cartel gunrunner as a paid informant WITHOUT telling the ATF. The same agency that has always been a lot more competent at avoiding punishment for their own fatal misdeeds, including the killing of Vicki Weaver and the immolation of 80 Davidian men, women and children. Yeah, THAT FBI.

Right.

Worse, the secret political policemen of DHS are waiting in the wings for the gun control mission.

But right now, it is to the advantage of the guilty parties at the top echelon of the Gunwalker conspirators at FBI, DEA. State, the NSC and White House for everybody to believe that this is strictly an ATF scandal.

By focusing on the tool, they hope you'll miss the fingerprints of the hand that wielded it.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; castaway; dea; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; ffgate; guncontrol; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; melson; murder; treason
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This shows that we are winning. This means we need to push all the harder to find all of those implicated in this scandal, and push hard for the guilty to be punished.
1 posted on 07/09/2011 6:15:51 AM PDT by marktwain
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2 posted on 07/09/2011 6:18:57 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: marktwain

and possibly a Felipe Calderón scandal.


3 posted on 07/09/2011 6:20:29 AM PDT by RC one (DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT!)
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To: marktwain

...which explains why the media has ignored it.


4 posted on 07/09/2011 6:21:54 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: MestaMachine
Please add me to your ping list.

Thanks in advance.

5 posted on 07/09/2011 6:23:10 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Heller: The defining moment of our Republic)
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To: Mr. Lucky

I’m wondering what’s it going to take for Americans to rise up and take their country back, I mean all evidence points towards either no elections next year, or heavily cheated ones. They are obviously planning some pretty dang nefarious things, where are the patriots?


6 posted on 07/09/2011 6:26:16 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: marktwain

“Worse, the secret political policemen of DHS are waiting in the wings for the gun control mission.”

Thank you, george.


7 posted on 07/09/2011 6:27:28 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: Mr. Lucky

This makes Watergate look like child’s play


8 posted on 07/09/2011 6:29:27 AM PDT by BubbaJunebug
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To: Bulwyf

I think the closer this gets to obama, the more unstable and desperate he gets. I am looking for something truly outrageous very soon from this administration. obama can NOT take pressure without striking out wildly.


9 posted on 07/09/2011 6:30:45 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: MestaMachine

please add me to your ping list, too....thanks.


10 posted on 07/09/2011 6:31:03 AM PDT by mickie
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To: MestaMachine

One more for your ping list.

TIA!


11 posted on 07/09/2011 6:34:08 AM PDT by maggief
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To: MestaMachine

Sign me up too. Thanks!


12 posted on 07/09/2011 6:36:22 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: MestaMachine

This Canadian will be there to help my southern brothers and sisters when the need arises ( I have three kids, I can’t afford to sit by and do nothing while freedom dies).

I’ve been expecting something big to happen for a while now, I just sometimes wonder why we have to wait, a good defense is a good offense?


13 posted on 07/09/2011 6:38:30 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: BubbaJunebug

A Border Patrol Agent and an I.C.E. Agent have been murdered by “walked” guns and G-d knows how many other people. Nobody died in Watergate.
Murder. That is what it is and that is what the indictments should say.


14 posted on 07/09/2011 6:44:01 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: MestaMachine

Mexico saying 150 to date.


15 posted on 07/09/2011 6:48:06 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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I think what popped this out into the air was the Giffords shooting. Agents were scared to death that the shooter might have been using one of the walked guns. So they’re HERE too. Got to be wondering about the two ranchers that were murdered as well.


16 posted on 07/09/2011 6:57:53 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: marktwain

How do we push hard for the guilty to be punished? What can we do?


17 posted on 07/09/2011 6:59:01 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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ATF’s Lost ‘Fast and Furious’ Weapons Show Up In Arizona Crimes

“The ABC15 Investigators uncovered documents showing guns connected to at least two Glendale criminal cases and at least two Phoenix criminal cases also appear in the ATF’s Suspect Gun Database, a sort-of watch list for suspicious gun sales.”

ATF officials recently testified before Congress about the case strategy, in which agents knowingly allowed firearms to be sold to criminals in Mexico. The operation was meant to help lead the ATF to high-ranking drug lords in the country, but many of the sold weapons were lost in the process. One official estimated that as many as 1,800 unrecovered firearms may now be on the streets of Mexico.

During his Congressional testimony, ATF Special Agent Peter Forcelli said, “I believe that these firearms will continue to turn up at crime scenes on both sides of the border for years to come.”

http://www.personalliberty.com/news/atfs-lost-fast-and-furious-weapons-show-up-in-arizona-crimes-27704/


18 posted on 07/09/2011 7:02:28 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: MestaMachine
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19 posted on 07/09/2011 7:09:27 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: ilovesarah2012

How ironic that the agency dedicated to taking way our right to have LEGAL firearms would paint the picture in such bold colors the very reason we NEED them.


20 posted on 07/09/2011 7:09:39 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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