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To: Red Steel
Waite clearly differentiates between children "born within the jurisdiction" (the jus soli and who are not NBCs) who some thought to be "citizens" at birth, but that was doubtful they were actually citizens because they were not formally naturalized to be US citizens.

Wow, you're just all over the map here. "The just soli and who are not NBCs" -- I'm not even sure what that means. Are NBCs not jus soli? What you appear to be trying to say is, "jus soli who are not also jus sanguinis", but even that doesn't clear things up.

who some thought to be "citizens" at birth, but that was doubtful they were actually citizens...

So far so good...

...because they were not formally naturalized to be US citizens.

Woops. Some doubted their citizenship because they were not jus sanguinis, not because they were not naturalized.

This would all change about 25 years later when justice Gray wrongfully (another story) decreed Wong Kim Ark a citizen in 1898.

Birther dance. Whether Gray ruled wrongly is irrelevant. WKA is legally binding precedent, and has been for more than a century, no matter how novel or specious or vapid you may think Gray's reasoning was.

137 posted on 06/26/2011 8:42:26 PM PDT by Nathanael1
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To: Nathanael1
Birther dance. Whether Gray ruled wrongly is irrelevant. WKA is legally binding precedent, and has been for more than a century, no matter how novel or specious or vapid you may think Gray's reasoning was.

Fogblower, Gray didn't even try to claim that Wong Kim Ark was a natural born citizen. Only precedent in making WKA a citizen, but not a natural born citizen.

No matter how you Fogblowers try to turn WKA into an NBC - there is no there there.

141 posted on 06/26/2011 8:57:32 PM PDT by Red Steel
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