Kosta50 you claimed:
“Like what? That the sun doesn’t “stand” still for 24 hours? You can’t be serious!”
OK then which miracle(s) have you determined impossible for God who spoke the earth and universe into being ex nihilo “out of nothing”?
re: Psalm 22 and Jesus Christ prophecies fulfillment, you asked:
“And you know that he did how?”
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are four eye-witness Gospel accounts that will hold up as credible witnesses in any reputable court of law. See book “More Than A Carpenter” by Josh McDowell.
re: archaeological evidence see http://www.arkdiscovery.com/red_sea_crossing.htm
“That’s your business. Your needs are not the world’s needs. Don’t judge the world by your own measure.”
My needs most certainly are in parallel with the world’s needs. I didn’t claim to be the judge of the world but the good book makes it plain who will judge the world, also that all the world lies in the lap of satan, and all are in need of salvation through Jesus Christ alone. Their is no substitute.
re: archaeological evidence
see http://www.arkdiscovery.com/red_sea_crossing.htm
Ron Wyatt, the “Indiana Jones” of the SDA Church
BY WAYNE JACKSON
http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/1511-ron-wyatt-the-indiana-jones-of-the-sda-church
Ron Wyatt (1933-1999) was a nurse-anesthetist in a hospital in Madison, Tennessee. At the age of 27 he saw a picture in Life Magazine of the Durupinar site — a large natural, boat-shaped formation — in eastern Turkey. Feverish speculation circulated that this could be the residue of Noah’s Ark. This sparked Wyatt’s interest, and was the beginning of a long amateur career as a sensationalist pseudo-archaeologist.For the last 22 years of his life he made numerous trips to the Middle East. The claims associated with his “discoveries” would make Harrison Ford’s “Indiana Jones” pale into oblivion. Yet today, more than a decade after his death, the ongoing boasts of his unparalleled “finds” are heralded via theWyatt Archaeological Research web site, and the various competing factions that publicize his exploits.His work has been debunked thoroughly by professional archaeologists and respected biblical scholars. On August 8, 1996, Joe Zias, Curator of Anthropology/Archaeology with the Israel Antiquities Authority (Jerusalem), issued the following statement: “Mr. Ron Wyatt is neither an archaeologist nor has he ever carried out a legally licensed excavation in Israel or Jerusalem. In order to excavate one must have at least a BA in archaeology which he does not possess despite his claims to the contrary. We are aware of his claims which border on the absurd as they have no scientific basis whatsoever nor have they ever been published in a professional journal. They fall into the category of trash which one finds in tabloids such as theNational Enquirer, Sun, etc. It’s amazing that anyone would believe them…” (http://www.tentmaker.org/WAR/Zias.html).
According to the aforementioned book, Wyatt discovered or identified some ninety-two relics or sites (HRR, 7-10). These include: If all the claims of Wyatt were true, he would be the most celebrated archaeologist in the history of that scholastic discipline! And yet he had no scientific credibility at all with respectable scholars; he was and is adored only by a band of deluded, though devoted, cultic disciples. In this brief review of the Standish brothers’ book, we offer two devastating examples of the hoaxes perpetrated by Ron Wyatt. Actually, the ninety-plus examples, touted by Wyatt and his followers, is a “house of cards” that falls under the weight of its own absurdity! Consider the following two most sensational examples. Wyatt claimed to have discovered the exact place where the Israelites crossed the Red Sea on dry ground, before the waters returned and drowned Pharaoh’s forces. He contended that he explored the floor of the Gulf of Aqaba, using scuba gear. Supposedly, he discovered “chariot litter” in the form of wheels, body frames, and the bones of both humans and horses, scattered over a lengthy area. Several things may be said of this claim (HRR, 184ff). First, the site of the exodus route, as described in Exodus 14:1ff, is highly disputed. The three specific sites mentioned in Moses’ record (v. 2) “have been lost in the sands of time” (Bruckner, 2008, 129). No one knows the precise place of the crossing. Conservative scholarship strongly argues that Israel crossed the Gulf of Suez (Vos, 2003, 104ff), and not the Gulf of Aqaba, as Wyatt contended. Second, Wyatt claimed that he was using simple recreational scuba equipment when he discovered these wheels, etc., at a depth of some 200 feet in the Gulf. However, ordinary scuba apparatus is designed to accommodate only a depth of approximately125-130 feet. Beyond this more sophisticated equipment is required. Third, Pharaoh’s army was said to have been destroyed “in the middle of the sea” (Exodus 14:23) which, according to measurements of the British Admiralty, is almost 2,800 feet deep in the midst of Aqaba. This hardly harmonizes with Wyatt’s 200 feet “discoveries”! Then there is the issue of the “bones” — of both horses and men — that Wyatt reputedly found. Recall that the destruction of Pharaoh’s army took place about 3,500 years ago. Compare this with the following facts. The Titanic went down in 1912 and 1,553 people were lost in the wreckage. In 1985, 73 years following that Atlantic catastrophe, the submerged vessel was discovered and explored. Specially designed underwater TV and video equipment was employed; in addition, more than 53,000 photos were taken. The remains of not a solitary person — neither skin nor bone — was found. Everything had been completely consumed by fish, crustaceans, and the destructive effect of salt water (HRR, 179ff). After their extensive investigations, the Standish brothers declared that no chariot wheels, or remains of human or horse bones found in the Gulf of Aqaba, were ever submitted to scientific authorities for examination and testing (HRR, 283-284). In spite of this fact, the Wyatt Museum web site states: “Ron actually retrieved a hub of a wheel which had the remains of 8 spokes radiating outward from it.” In fact, he claimed to have found wheels with 4, 6, and 8 spokes! One authority suggests that the video tape Wyatt employed to show these underwater “artifacts” appears to be a hoax; he challenged him to subject the items to a C14 dating test — if indeed he ever had an actual sample of anything (Zias, op. cit.). The problems associated with Wyatt’s alleged discoveries are astronomical — beyond one’s ability to calculate. Take, for example, the claim that he located a residue of the dried blood of Christ that had dripped on to the Mercy Seat of the Ark of the Covenant, located within a cave associated with Solomon’s original Temple in Jerusalem. One of Wyatt’s defenders claims samples were taken and returned to Nashville, Tennessee where Wyatt had the “blood” analyzed in a hospital laboratory. On another occasion, in an interview with Russell Standish, Wyatt claimed that the samples were studied in a laboratory in Jerusalem. The contradiction is glaring. Where was the lab? Are there remaining samples, since the claim was made that copious amounts of blood had flowed down? Where are the test records? Can other samples be retrieved? Is there any evidence at all of such a discovery? Why was the evidence never brought forth for critical and scientific examination? One explanation was that the Israeli authorities did not want the story released because the location of the Ark of the Covenant was very close to one of Islam’s most sacred sites, and the announcement might possibly precipitate a violent conflict between Jewish zealots and Moslems. At the same time, however, Wyatt was “blabbing” the story of the discovery in Europe, North America, Australia, and New Zealand (HRR, 5, 55, 89), with no apparent censure from the Israeli government! The fact is, Joe Zias of the Israel Antiquities Department (as referenced above) “provided full authority for the public release of the report on Wyatt’s blood samples” (HRR, 90). Elsewhere Wyatt claimed that an “angel prohibited” him from providing the details of his phenomenal discovery! (HRR, 70, 90, 285). There also were other accounts of “angelic” appearances, and even a claim of seeing Christ (HRR, 127ff). Incidentally, the reason Wyatt knew he saw Jesus was because the Lord “was dressed exactly as Ellen White [the so-called ‘prophetess’ of the early SDA movement] saw Him in vision, with the blue border at the hem of his garment”! No rational person is under obligation to accept the assertions of Wyatt in the absence of credible proof. Rather, it was his duty to provide concrete evidence for observation and testing of the claims made. He never did. His boasts were wholly spurious. Those interested in further investigating the truth about Ron Wyatt should obtain a copy Holy Relics or Revelation (Hartland Publications, Box 1, Rapidan, VA 22733).
Wyatt’s religious affiliation was with the Seventh-day Adventist sect. Ironically, the most thorough exposé of the gentleman’s claims was produced by two scholars of his own denomination, Russell R. and Colin D. Standish.Alleged Discoveries
Serious Problems
Bones and Chariot Wheels
The Blood of Christ Allegation
Conclusion
Sources/Footnotes
You are basing this on your acceptance of what's in a book. These tings don't happen in the real world. There are no talking snakes and donkeys and diseases are not caused by 'evil spirits.' No one else recorded this outside the Bible. The sun stood still for 24 hours? How did they measure 24 hours? Please, don't do this to yourself.
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are four eye-witness Gospel accounts
I don't know where you are getting this from. Mark was no eyewitness and neither was Luke. In fact all four Gospels are anonymous. The names were added at the end of the 2nd century.
re: archaeological evidence see http://www.arkdiscovery.com/red_sea_crossing.htm
Israel Finkelstein, among others, is the Head of the Israeli Antiquities Society. And hes says the Jews were never in Egypt, there was no Exodus, and that there are no traces of any Jewish presence in the Sinai corresponding at any time during those centuries.
How can you have over a million people living in an area most of the 40myerars they were there and not leave a trace? But there are plenty of Egyptian traces in the area dating back to any proposed Exodus period.
didnt claim to be the judge of the world but the good book makes it plain who will judge the world
Other mortals like you (you are mortal aren't you?) believe in other "good books". Why should yours be the "true" one and theirs not?
Their is no substitute
That is your belief.