Posted on 10/17/2010 9:21:36 AM PDT by Michael van der Galien
Lets talk about Ron Paul. Its no secret that the Texas congressman isnt the most popular guy in this corner of the blogosphere, though despite NewsRealBlogs many, many posts explaining why, were still subjected to wild speculation about our real motivesthe Paulite hordes routinely diagnose their opponents true motives as everything from hating limited government to the will of our (imagined) Jewish masters.
Considering that domestic policywhere Pauls talk of the Constitution lines up pretty well with the rest of the Rightis currently where the electoral action is, nows a good time to make perfectly clear exactly whats wrong with Paul. The inane misdirection has gone on long enough; its time to set the record straight with Ron Pauls top eight greatest hits.
8. Founding Faker
A big part of Pauls appeal among conservatives and libertarians is the public image hes cultivated as one of the last remaining adherents and spokesmen of the Founding Fathers. Thats a good marketing strategy, but unfortunately, in Pauls case its also boguson foreign policy, Ron Paul doesnt faithfully apply the Founders words, he hijacks them for his own ends.
Yes, George Washington warned the country not to needlessly entangle herself in foreign affairs of no concern to America, and John Quincy Adams told us not to simply go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. But from these general principles, Paul and his cultists have inferred drastic conclusions that have little to no support in our forefathers actual words. Whatever one thinks of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, the fact is that they were directly motivated not by imperialism or utopianism, but by Americas national security interests, as counterattacks against the global Islamic movement that struck the US on 9/11.
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I haven’t seen too many posters on here that believe that “Ron is not a Rhino”
Also I’ve heard some of his thoughts on foreign policies that he believes would be successful in doing business w/other countries and if ...”Ron Pauls is too much.”
Well...I must have missed something that he said that you didn’t like..that I need to hear.
One thing is for sure that I’m not going to do is...follow someone off a cliff and what I found out about blogs...is the same thing I know about sheep. They’ll latch on to the loudest and most outlandish falsehood...and be lead into the ditch....before they do any research for the truth.
“lets invade a country and then stay there forever.”
Now...tell me one more time please. Why did they send my son over there?
Those people could "Progressives" in the Teddy Rooseveldt vein..
Would explain a lot about dubbyas seeming turn to BIG government conservative treason..
Not to speak of how "we" got John McQueeq to run against Zero.. in a magical gambit..
And maybe how "we" got Dubbya in the first place..
Both McQueeq and Dubbya made me go "Whats up with that?"
In those days I always punched(vote) (R).. no matter what..
Not so these days.. RINOs have proven they are really democrats..
Sometimes Worse than democrats.. like the ditz's from Maine..
Any at all or is there still not much difference?
Yeah, rather go with poll numbers than actual votes...such as the county by mine, where he got 25% of the vote, double what the Huckster got.
But there must be some explanation for Ron Paul’s nutty behavior.
Serving in the military tells us nothing—John Murtha and Wesley Clark served in the military but clearly both have been neck-deep in the leftist war against America.
Ron Paul’s chief selling point, second only to his reputation as a “constitutionalist,” is that he’s a deficit hawk. But:
“Rep. Ron Paul vehemently denounced the $410 billion catch-all spending bill approved last week by the House of Representatives. But although the libertarian-leaning Republican from Lake Jackson cast a vote against the massive spending measure, his fingerprints were on some of the earmarks that helped inflate its cost. Paul played a role in obtaining 22 earmarks worth $96.1 million”
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6286883.html
I’d be willing to accept Paul’s nuttiness as simply due to a strong temperament with the opinion to match. But for him to take this much pork blows the “opinionated but sincere” version out the window.
Add this gaping hole in his reputation to Paul’s extreme position on the Iraq war, and his ongoing association with people like Alex Jones and Jesse Ventura. What you get is either a complete nut who is easily duped, or a covert Alinskyite who thinks he can perpetrate Alinsky’s fourth tactic on the rest of us.
Clearly for blog hits as it wasn't really more than a single page and they s t r e t c h e d it out to the point of being ridiculous.
Reminds me of a kid's MySpace page more than anything.
I am not a fan of Paul, but this mans obsession with him and venom against him is profoundly bizarre.
... but easily explained.
Reagan was in the midst of conquering another nation on the day of the Beirut bombing, within literally less than 50 hours, our invasion force was conquering Granada.
I’m a Ron Paul supporter. But I don’t feel the way to go right now is to push Ron Paul’s full foreign policy agenda.
It’s one thing to want to get out of the endless wars.
Ron Paul is for that, and I’m for that. And not to start wars that require that everything in those countries is better than new. The neocons are the ones who want the long pointless wars.
Ron on the other hand has said a bunch of things that people who are not neocons, but just want a strong stable not crazy foreign policy, don’t like. Strong, proAmerica foreign policy. Not “let’s fix the middle east” foreign policy.
They don’t like things like “let’s close down every military base overseas”. There are a lot of Republicans who want a strong military, with strategic military bases, but not neocon wars of choice. Ron Paul goes too far for those who feel this way.
Yeah, the 22 years was neocon control of the Republicans.
Paul supported Reagan in 1976. He was one of the few Reps to do so. By 1988, I think Paul was disappointed by Reagan, or by the outcome. The Department of Education wasn’t abolished, for one. I think Paul wanted big cuts in Government and was disappointed when they didn’t happen.
Rep. Ron Paul vehemently denounced the $410 billion catch-all spending bill approved last week by the House of Representatives. But although the libertarian-leaning Republican from Lake Jackson cast a vote against the massive spending measure, his fingerprints were on some of the earmarks that helped inflate its cost. Paul played a role in obtaining 22 earmarks worth $96.1 million
That's a bit like calling a guy who drives 65 in a 60 a "hypocrite" because he correctly points out the maniac who blast by at 110. Besides, I doubt any Republican you've ever voted for has an earmark record that's much better, and they probably also voted for the full spending bill as a package.
It was 1984, in his farewell address, “We insist that Western Europe take our Pershing missiles. We get the bill, and the hostility of the people of Western Europe, and then act surprised that the Soviets pull out of arms negotiations and send more modern nuclear submarines to our coastline.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1944714/posts
Everyone else does it, so Ron Paul can do it?
Sorry, not buying the excuse. Ron Paul is a fraud.
And the Republican I want to vote for doesn’t accept earmarks.
Everyone else does it, so Ron Paul can do it?
No. But the degree to which Ron Paul does it is minuscule compared to pretty much everyone else. Harping on the guy going 65 in a 60 while hundreds of maniacs continue to fly by at 110 suggests that it's not really his speeding that bothers you despite your protests otherwise...which also makes your complaint a disingenuous one.
Absolutely Correct, Sir!!!!
Why does Ron Paul spend so much time with Alex Jones, if he’s not a fraud?
And why does Ron Paul support the 911 mosque, if he’s not a fraud?
You analized his position very good. I understand him...and that’s the position that is correspondent and representative with what the founders had in mind.
I say we don’t need to stray from those principles.
“Ron on the other hand has said a bunch of things that people who are not neocons, but just want a strong stable not crazy foreign policy, dont like. Strong, proAmerica foreign policy. Not lets fix the middle east foreign policy.”
Never ,Never apologize for Ron Paul. He knows what he wants to convey...let the people figure out for themselves...you can not combat all the lies...neither can he...and you see he doesn’t try. For every truth...there is a counterfeit....that’s the way it’s been from the beginning of time. So is the US Constitution..even the Word Of God has many counterfeits to get us to diviate from the truth.
“Ron Paul goes too far for those who feel this way.”
Then they think the freedom that they have is enough and they are afraid if they aguire more it will be too much for them. Strange isn’t it?
Thanks for displaying your enthusiasm for freedom and the Constitution on here. It is an unlikely place to come in agreement with people about the American peoples Constitutional rights but...there are a few on here(a very few)that read their rights and long for them, confess ‘em and defend ‘em and eventually will fight hand to hand combat against the government if need be to preserve it.
But....very few.
You analized his position very good. I understand him...and that’s the position that is correspondent and representative with what the founders had in mind.
I say we don’t need to stray from those principles.
“Ron on the other hand has said a bunch of things that people who are not neocons, but just want a strong stable not crazy foreign policy, dont like. Strong, proAmerica foreign policy. Not lets fix the middle east foreign policy.”
Never ,Never apologize for Ron Paul. He knows what he wants to convey...let the people figure out for themselves...you can not combat all the lies...neither can he...and you see he doesn’t try. For every truth...there is a counterfeit....that’s the way it’s been from the beginning of time. So is the US Constitution..even the Word Of God has many counterfeits to get us to diviate from the truth.
“Ron Paul goes too far for those who feel this way.”
Then they think the freedom that they have is enough and they are afraid if they aguire more it will be too much for them. Strange isn’t it?
Thanks for displaying your enthusiasm for freedom and the Constitution on here. It is an unlikely place to come in agreement with people about the American peoples Constitutional rights but...there are a few on here(a very few)that read their rights and long for them, confess ‘em and defend ‘em and eventually will fight hand to hand combat against the government if need be to preserve it.
But....very few.
You analized his position very good. I understand him...and that’s the position that is correspondent and representative with what the founders had in mind.
I say we don’t need to stray from those principles.
“Ron on the other hand has said a bunch of things that people who are not neocons, but just want a strong stable not crazy foreign policy, dont like. Strong, proAmerica foreign policy. Not lets fix the middle east foreign policy.”
Never ,Never apologize for Ron Paul. He knows what he wants to convey...let the people figure out for themselves...you can not combat all the lies...neither can he...and you see he doesn’t try. For every truth...there is a counterfeit....that’s the way it’s been from the beginning of time. So is the US Constitution..even the Word Of God has many counterfeits to get us to diviate from the truth.
“Ron Paul goes too far for those who feel this way.”
Then they think the freedom that they have is enough and they are afraid if they aguire more it will be too much for them. Strange isn’t it?
Thanks for displaying your enthusiasm for freedom and the Constitution on here. It is an unlikely place to come in agreement with people about the American peoples Constitutional rights but...there are a few on here(a very few)that read their rights and long for them, confess ‘em and defend ‘em and eventually will fight hand to hand combat against the government if need be to preserve it.
But....very few.
RP is the closest politician to the Founding Fathers there is.
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