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1 posted on 01/14/2010 2:32:14 PM PST by wrrock
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Term limits for members of Congress or the Senate would require a constitutional amendment. The first order of business should be something more easily achievable.


2 posted on 01/14/2010 2:38:03 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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The movement needs to stay focused on stopping big government, big spending, and socialism and not get side tracked into issues that can be dealt with later.


3 posted on 01/14/2010 2:38:36 PM PST by excopconservative
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To: wrrock

I do not support term limits at any level of government.


4 posted on 01/14/2010 2:41:55 PM PST by Mariner
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***Sarcam On**Term limits have worked really well in California***Sarcasm Off***


5 posted on 01/14/2010 2:44:55 PM PST by C19fan
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I think term limits are vastly overrated.

Problem is, you would have 100% inexperienced congressmen and senators, relying for everything on 'expert', entrenched, and completely unaccountable staff.

They would be at the mercy of staffers . . . and the staffers are overwhelmingly liberal.

No, thanks. If we can hold re-election over our congressmen's heads, we have more control over them than over hundreds of nameless, faceless paper-pushers.

6 posted on 01/14/2010 2:45:54 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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I don't see how term limits are the panacea some believe them to be.

Once you set term limits, the parties will come to "own" the seats, and groom corrupt douchebags to auction the seats off to.

Once seated, those who purchased the seats will vote exactly as commanded to by the party leadership, with promises of high paying public and corporate positions once their term of service to the party is complete.

We'll simply replace permanent hacks with a rotating series of hacks.

On top of all that, it's unconstitutional.

7 posted on 01/14/2010 2:49:33 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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BUT, HOUSTON, WE STILL HAVE A PROBLEM!

What is to be done about the HILL RATS? These are the allegedly “professional” staffers who are so named because after the election their current boss loses, they scurry like rats to a new member – ANY MEMBER (his politics frequently don’t matter) – just to remain close to the power. Most are flaming liberals and, after the “experienced” staffer shows the new guy where the john is, because they have been up there for decades, far too many of these new members rely on them for how to vote and get along in the thoroughly corrupt system of “you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours” that has caused the mess in which we now find ourselves.

IT GETS WORSE!

Let’s say the new guy needs an “expert” on tax policy. Well, son-of-a-gun, the professional staffer JUST HAPPENS to have a college chum who works at the IRS! Need an “expert” on education policy. Darned if that secretary he just hired doesn’t just have an old teacher friend who works over at the Department of Education!

NOW YOU KNOW WHY THE MORE THINGS CHANGE, THE MORE THEY STAY THE SAME – ESPECIALLY IN MALFUNCTION JUNCTION.

Looks like we will also need TENURE LIMITS on the Hill Rats with stiff penalties for breaking the rules!

I recently heard Gingrich tell Hannity that—horrors — the alleged Health Care Bill was almost certainly written at 3 am by 25 year-old liberal staffers, groggy on beer and pizza. Not sure why that was so shocking. HELL, that’s how nearly ALL the so-called legislation has been done up there for decades. It’s why there are two things one should never watch being made: SAUSAGE AND LAWS.

One of the KEY THINGS we all need to do BEFORE we get behind a new candidate to replace the 8 term retread who has sold us out nearly every term up there is to INSIST THAT HE DRAW HIS KEY STAFFERS FROM LOCAL FOLKS WHO MAY STILL HAVE A GRASP ON REALITY OUT HERE IN FLYOVER COUNTRY — THEN HOLD HIS FEET TO THE FIRE ON THAT PLEDGE — OR REPLACE HIM NEXT TIME!

Sadly, it’s the ONLY WAY THINGS WILL CHANGE UP THERE!!


8 posted on 01/14/2010 2:53:44 PM PST by Dick Bachert (.THE 2010 PRECINCT MEETINGS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IN OUR LIFETIMES. BE THERE!!)
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To: wrrock

Make these “public servants” both civilly and criminally responsible for their actions and you will find that “term limits” will take care of itself.

Deliberate disregard of our Constitution and the laws of this land, should be actionable... Simply voting the crooks out does little good because they are just replaced with more of the same.

Lady Justice is supposed to be blind....


9 posted on 01/14/2010 2:57:38 PM PST by Gator113 (Obama is America's First FAILED "light skinned African American [Pres-dent] with no Negro dialect..")
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To: wrrock

Agreed, terms limits are a must.


10 posted on 01/14/2010 3:00:02 PM PST by cranked
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damd straight. twelve years and out in either house... have to sit out one term before running again
14 posted on 01/14/2010 3:57:14 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: wrrock
The Tea Party Patriots will accomplish nothing if they do not identify and run a lot of NEW CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATES!

It seems too early for some sort of "platform" beyond the general principles of small government, low taxes and cutting spending. The rest will work out in individual races.

But we won't get anywhere without truly conservative candidates and right now our supply is very small. No candidates means no future representation.


18 posted on 01/14/2010 6:23:03 PM PST by paulycy (The Liberals' DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE CRIMES.)
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