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To: rahbert

Even IF he was born in Hawaii, his father is not a US Citizen, and his mother was not BACK in the US for the required number of years prior to her 14 birthday for him to be a US Citizen.
That contends that he is a Kenyan citizen, hence a British Subject. We did not have dual citizenship with Great Britian in 1961, so he did not qualify at birth to be a US Citizen.


32 posted on 09/21/2009 12:42:29 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13

I don’t understand your point. how does it matter where his mother was if he was born on Hawaii?? If he was born on Hawaii then his mom was also on hawaii. The only way your contention makes sense is if his mom isn’t his mom, or
else she somehow teleported him to Hawaii direct from the womb..


67 posted on 09/21/2009 3:01:22 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: etraveler13
Even IF he was born in Hawaii, his father is not a US Citizen, and his mother was not BACK in the US for the required number of years prior to her 14 birthday for him to be a US Citizen.

That contends that he is a Kenyan citizen, hence a British Subject. We did not have dual citizenship with Great Britian in 1961, so he did not qualify at birth to be a US Citizen.

That doesn't make sense. Obama's mother, so far as I can tell lived all her life prior to her 14th birthday in the US.

If you're talking about the former rule that the US citizen parent had to have lived in the US for 10 years, five of them after the age of 14 for children to be citizens, that applied to children born outside of the US. If Obama was born in the US to a US parent he was a US citizen from birth.

To say that we didn't have or recognize dual citizenship with Great Britain, means that we didn't recognize that American citizens could also have British citizenship. It doesn't mean that those who could possibly claim foreign citizenship weren't American citizens. It means that Britain's claim was irrelevant so far as requirements for US citizenship are concerned.

74 posted on 09/21/2009 3:12:30 PM PDT by x
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To: etraveler13

I fail to understand why you are so willing to submit to UK (or English law) over US law. Are you a huge UN fan in favor of international law usurping US law?

I don’t care a fig what UK law says about citizenship. I don’t care if Cuba declares me (or my father) a “natural born citizen” of Cuba. I was born here, and and a citizen here. Period. I was born here and am subject to the laws and Constitution of this nation alone as long as I am here.

I am really curious why all the birthers are so willing to subject themselves to international law, the musings of a pre-constitutional Swiss philosophers and other concepts that are completely alien to our concept of national sovereignty.

I don’t care if Parliment declares me the King of England, I am a natural born citizen of the US, and no other nation or international body except OUR COUNTRY has the right to say otherwise.

It’s almost like the birthers want to appeal to the UN or the Hague. Even those who believe 0bama was born in Hawaii think these international opinions merit discussion. Think about what you are saying, please.

As I have said before: there is enough to hate about 0bama to not have to make stuff up.


89 posted on 09/21/2009 4:13:58 PM PDT by LibertarianAdam (Let the government protect our borders, then leave us alone within them)
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