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Birthers! I resemble that remark.
Such an easy thing to prove and fix but yet Obama doesn’t want to handle. It must be from the Alinsky play book to keep your opposition asking questions about your past to take the heat off of your current status.
I’ve had this belief since October of last year when the subject first arose. There are two possible things on that birth certificate which could give problems. Either the British nationality is noted, or the father is not this Kenyan. The first answer means that he’s pretty much declared out of the game. The second one means that the legend he has given out....has some holes in it.
What I suspect is that most of the legal profession has come to agree that the birth certificate matters...and this whole delay game makes things more suspicious than what they should be.
“FREE THE LONG FORM!”
Would you mind posting your citation for that?
ALERT: I have it on good information that there is some new info.
The website http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=1703 has a document, with Barack Obama’s signature on it, that purports to be a “Presidential Preference Election Candidate Nomination Paper” required in Arizona by A.R.S. § 16-242. The significant thing about this is that it is completely invalid. The notarization of Obama’s signature was made by a Virginia notary and as such is subject to Va. Code 47.1-16 (effective July 1, 2007). The Virginia law requires that: “Every notarization shall include the date upon which the notarial act was performed, and the COUNTY or CITY IN WHICH it was performed.” Violation number two occurred when Ray Anderson, Notary failed to note when his own authority to notarize documents expired. The Virginia law requires that requires it with the word “shall” is stated here, “Upon every writing which is the subject of a notarial act, the notary shall, after his certificate, state the date of the expiration of his commission.” Obama may try to seek safe harbor from any criminal fraud allegation on account of “swearing that he is qualified to hold the office he sought” that such document was invalid and thus could not be used as evidence against him. This is just one piece of evidence applicable to the state of Arizona. Obama inc. may well have bungled the other 57 states requirements on candidate eligibility. In the worst case scenario for Obama, the invalid candidate attestation invalidates the amount of Arizona electoral college votes which in turn invalidates the 2008 Joint Session of Congress certifying electoral votes.
This is a very technical application of the rules but we should not apologize for applying the law when Obama never apologized for his own hardball tactics where he used the rule book to win his first race for Illinois state Senate against Alice Palmer. See http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/29/obamas.first.campaign/index.html . I also suggest that any discovery questions relating to this “notary issue” is fair game when standing is based upon 3 U.S.C. § 15. As has been said, possibly multiple provisions were not properly followed on January 8, 2009 when the votes for Obama were counted. And the district court therefore does have jurisdiction to review a failure of the Government to follow the laws enacted to protect the integrity of the electoral process.
Therefore, upon the Leo Donofrio, basis: since the DOJ raised the statute and relied upon it for the motion to dismiss, and since Judge Carter has allowed immediate discovery necessary for purposes of opposing the motion to dismiss, Orly should also demand discovery for any issue related to the invalidity of each individual state presidential eligibility documents. Apparently, the Arizona documents are invalid because they require a valid Notary endorsement, which Obama failed to provide.
(Note this argument fails if the Arizona document was merely cropped and the original actually contains the location of the notarial act and identifies the commission expiration date.)
Requests for Admissions
1. Admit that the “Presidential Preference Election Candidate Nomination Paper” required in Arizona by A.R.S. § 16-242, is genuine, attached as Exhibit A.
2. Admit that the notarial act is invalid in reference to exhibit A because it does not comply with all the requirements of Va. Code 47.1-16.
3. Admit that the notarial act is invalid in reference to exhibit A because it fails to identify the location of the notarial act.
4. Admit that the notarial act is invalid in reference to exhibit A because it fails to identify the commission expiration date.
BT, my gut tells me that the problem isn’t anything that’s already public knowledge, like UK. The concealment, I suspect, has to do with complications arising from the Indonesian adoption connection—such as subsequent use of Indonesian citizenship to obtain student aid and passport.
Finally.
The real issue regarding 0bama’s citizenship revolves around issue of dual citizenship, or possibly multiple citizenship.
Was 0bama a “natural born” US citizen when he was born with both US and Kenyan citizenship?
Is he still a Kenyan citizen, and if not, when did that change?
Did he ever become an Indonesian citizen?
Was his US citizenship status ever lost or changed due to either of these issues?
Unfortunately, these real and legitimate questions have been overshadowed and tainted by the “Kenyan birth” nonsense.
It doesn't seem really necessary to ‘prove’ that BHO was born in Hawaii in order to move on to more legitimate questions regarding the meaning of ‘Natural Born Citizen’. Instead what might be more beneficial is to put a stake through the fallacious and unsupported arguments that BHO was born somewhere other than Hawaii.
If the argument can be steered away from that unprofitable line of thought, a great deal of the noise goes away.
But I do not know how likely that is to happen on such an emotionally charged issues.
He wasn’t born in Hawaii, he isn’rt a naturalized citizen, he doesn’t have dual citizenship, he’s a kenyan and an illegal alien.!!!
Arrest and deport the Pile of shit!
good luck proving he was born in hawaii
sounds like you are trying to quick jump over one of the fundamental items 0bama has paid over $1m to keep concealed.
i say let’s take a nice, detailed look into everything he is trying to keep hidden.
i, for one, won’t give an inch and demand the Constitution be upheld (silly me)
Haven’t heard from you lately. What say you?
This is all well and good, Leo, if you believe he was born in HI. I, for one, don’t believe he was born in HI. I rather suspect he was born in Kenya. Granted, I base that on the fact he has not seen fit to provide an original BC from the State of HI that would put is birth in that state. In fact, he has apparently spent over a million dollars (by some estimates) in legal fees to keep anyone from seeing any of the documentation from his past; his BC, school and college records, passport records, etc.
You are correct, though. This IS a critical Constitutional issue and deserves a full and complete hearing and resolution.
Who would’ve thought that America would be destroyed by a possible foreigner, as Congress silently witnesses its demise.
Born here good.
Not born in the USA bad.
That sums it up IMO.
So if you concede that Obama was born in Hawaii then what do you sue over? And why should any future suits not suffer the same fate as all the rest, dismissed due to lack of standing?
“Obama’s father was never a US citizen “
That would depend on the identity of his father. Which is probably on his birth certificate.
Please, please, please: don’t let Leo Donofrio do your strategizing for you.
The cert issue is the key to resolving his issue, as I’ve tried to explain several times.
The cert issue is the one that the MSM has consistently lied about.
If I got any help at all pointing out those lies, the MSM could be shamed into offering real coverage of this issue.
Pointing out those lies would strike right at the heart of the MSM’s coverage of this issue and reveal them for what they are. And, all of that would be completely based in easy-to-understand, indisputable facts, not speculation. And, it would serve to improve coverage of those areas too, like immigration.
It’s called leverage, and someone needs to explain that to Donofrio and his followers.
Judging by the polls posted at Facebook, the “birthers” have been in the majority for about a month. (and Obama has been declared “the worst president ever.”)