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To: sarah p
Are you claiming that it is not written in the Constitution that the POTUS has to be a natural born citizen? It clearly states “natural born citizen”, not just any citizen.

Please cite where in the Constitution (or in established U.S. Law) is "Natural Born Citizen" defined as being born of two U.S. citizens?

Also, this is the only place in the Constitution that makes a differentiation between a citizen and a natural born citizen.

Again, please cite where this is written in the Constitution. Blog entries don't count.

I won't be holding my breath.

108 posted on 01/30/2009 4:37:13 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

“Please cite where in the Constitution (or in established U.S. Law) is “Natural Born Citizen” defined as being born of two U.S. citizens?”

Why don’t you post were it says in the Constitution (or any other US law) that every single word must be defined by law for something to be interpretable. For example, are the words “the” and “born” defined by law? By your definition, no one has to obey a law if all of the words are not specifically defined.

Obviously, there are words that have commonly understood definitions. At the time that the Constitution was written, the definition for natural born citizen was understood.

The framers also modeled the Constitution after Emmerich de Vattel’s “The Law of Nations”, in which it is clearly defined. In Chapter XIX, paragraph 212, “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.”

Now I will address your next question.

Me: “Also, this is the only place in the Constitution that makes a differentiation between a citizen and a natural born citizen.”

you: “Again, please cite where this is written in the Constitution. Blog entries don’t count.

I won’t be holding my breath.”

In order for me to do this, I would have to post the entire Constitution, highlighting every instance of the word “citizen” and the single time “natural born” appears. Obviously, I am not going to do this, so I will cite the Constitution itself and let those who are truly interested to check it out on their own.


119 posted on 01/30/2009 8:08:13 PM PST by sarah p
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To: Drew68

You wrote: “Please cite where in the Constitution (or in established U.S. Law) is “Natural Born Citizen” defined as being born of two U.S. citizens?”

my reply: Why don’t you cite were it says in the Constitution (or any other US law) that every single word must be defined for a law to be enforced. For example, are the words “the” and “where” defined by law? By your definition, a law is not valid unless every words is specifically defined.

Obviously, there are words that have commonly understood meanings. At the time that the Constitution was written, the definition for natural born citizen was understood.

Also, the framers modeled the Constitution after Emmerich de Vattel’s “The Law of Nations”, in which it is clearly defined. In Chapter XIX, paragraph 212, “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.”


Now I will address your next question.

Me: “Also, this is the only place in the Constitution that makes a differentiation between a citizen and a natural born citizen.”

you: “Again, please cite where this is written in the Constitution. Blog entries don’t count.

I won’t be holding my breath.”

my reply: In order for me to do this, I would have to post the entire Constitution, highlighting every instance of the word “citizen” and the single time “natural born” appears. Obviously, I am not going to do this, so I will cite the Constitution itself and let those who are truly interested to check it out on their own.


121 posted on 01/30/2009 8:09:13 PM PST by sarah p
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