Posted on 04/01/2005 5:15:09 PM PST by CHARLITE
My thoughts and feelings exactly. This is the worst thing I've seen in my 60 years on this planet. I thought my tears had dried up years ago, but this last two weeks I've cried buckets. I believe that the retribution for this most foul murder by the United States government will come quickly and make the fall of the towers look like child's play. We were warned, we were weighed in the balance, we were found wanting. The powerful ones who caused and permitted this atrocity should be very afraid. Those of us who see the global and cosmic implications of such an act of pure evil know that the pale horse and his rider are here, and I for one will spend my remaining days in sackcloth and ashes. This betrayal, this desecration, will not be forgiven, judgment will be swift, divine vengeance will be terrible.
There are still a few voices crying in the wilderness. I can only hope and pray that we will be heard.
An American Patriot wrote: "have my name removed from their list. I am now officially listed as an Independant. ""
You responded by saying you'd beat the person by 30 years. I wish I would have copied and pasted your entire post. It was excellent.
Your nic is accurate. - You are truly AN AMERICAN PATRIOT.
MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALWAYS -
MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON OUR PRECIOUS LAND.
In some ways this must be much more painful for you, because you are 20 years older than I am; therefore, you have many more memories of the way America used to be. I have memories of an innocent, safe, and good America too, but only from my childhood. That America no longer exists, and it tears me to pieces to see what we've now become. I'm not an America-basher and never have been, but the America I remember would've never allowed such a terrible injustice to occur. The America I remember is gone, and this was the final death blow.
I want to clarify that my grief is not solely for our country; I did and do grieve for Terri. I imagined myself in her shoes. I imagined what it would be like to be aware, but helplessly unable to speak. I imagined what it would be like to be betrayed and discarded like garbage by the man who'd vowed to love and protect me in sickness and in health. I imagined what it would be like to die so slowly and agonizingly, knowing the entire time that this was all being done to me "legally". I grieve for Terri, her parents & siblings, and all who truly loved her, as well as grieving for what America has become. And, I grieve for all those who will now be murdered as she was thanks to the precedent that's been set.
You've mentioned twice that America was weighed in the balance and found wanting. Perhaps, you are already aware of what I'm about to point out:
"Mene mene tekel upharsin" is what was written on the wall by the hand of God the night Babylon fell. (The prophet Daniel's interpretation was: Mene--God has numbered your kingdom and finished it. Tekel--You are weighed in the balances and are found wanting. Upharsin--Your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and the Persians.)
Many people scratch their heads and wonder why a country as great, powerful, and influential as America is not mentioned at all in any of the prophetic books of the Bible. But, I think America is mentioned, hundreds of times. The ancient prophecies of the end time country the Bible refers to as Babylon perfectly describe what can only be one nation: America. No other nation in the world fits these prophecies of modern day Babylon; Iraq certainly doesn't. Only America does.
This modern day Babylon is prophecied to burn. It will be entirely destroyed by fire, and it will be destroyed in one hour. God warns His people who still remain in Babylon to flee. He says, "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities."
My household doesn't need to flee, because we've already been moved overseas. We'd never planned to move, it just sort of happened due to rapidly changing and completely unanticipated circumstances that literally pushed us out of the country. Several months ago, doors of opportunity began to quickly open and close in such a way that within 2 days we went from never imagining in our wildest dreams that we'd ever leave America to packing our bags. It was really strange the way it all happened.
I'll probably be ridiculed by some FReepers for what I've just said and get accused of being an America-hater or a lib, even though I'm an old school, Founding Fathers/U.S. Constitution-loving, conservative American. I have never in my life cheered for the demise of America. What I've seen our great nation become makes me weep. My heart is shattered and I've shed enough tears to fill bucket after bucket, because it's never been more clear to me than now that the America I knew in my youth is gone.
Nope, I'm not a troll, and I'm certainly not the only Democrat who's appalled by the Terri Schiavo debacle. It's just that the mainstream media has decided upon a pro-Michael spin, leaving little room for dissenting viewpoints.
Yes, I know the passage from the feast of Belshazzar well. The other day, in a moment of impotent disbelief, I e-mailed those very words to Jeb Bush. Not that he would read them, or understand them, but I had to do something.
I don't hate America, either. I hate what's happened. I hate the fact that power is so corrupting. I mourn for Terri and all the slaughtered innocents, I mourn for our country, I mourn for all the victims of wicked and blind men.
May you be safe in your new home, and continue on a path of enlightenment. May there be a new and better world, if not in my time, in yours. May all people of good will find a safe haven and respite from the evils that have been wrought upon our world.
Thanks. My mom and aunt are Democrats, too, and they're horrified by all this. We've had PVS patients in our family -- *real* PVS patients, not brain-damaged people being labeled PVS. Let me tell you, none of those people were anywhere near as responsive as Terri.
Quite frankly, there were a lot of conservatives along the way who failed Terri. Judge Greer, by all accounts "conservative". Judge Birch. Congress and to a certain extent, Jeb Bush.
I agree. Judge Greer was enemy #1 of Terri Schiavo, and the other judges IMHO pretty much just backed him up to cover for him.
The problem is, are the Democrats who are outraged by this murder going to speak up?
This Democrat is. I'm furious that my Party has failed to fight for the basic human rights of a handicapped person.
Is Ralph Nader going to pursue this as passionately as protecting the environment?
I don't doubt that he is. Nader has always fought hard for what he believes in, even if it isn't "popular" at the time. Public opinion polls don't dictate his actions, thank God.
Is Jesse Jackson going to stick around the way he would if she were black?
I don't think we'll ever know, because the media's more concerned with his involvement with Michael Jackson. They'll always choose a freak show over real issues.
Are the disabled groups going to make this their cause celebre, or are they going to go back to persecuting small town bars that don't have handicapped parking?
As a mildly disabled person who has a handicapped parking permit (and sees fully able-bodied people illegally take up handicapped parking every day), I'd like to point out that attitudes about the latter are what create an environment for tragedies like Terri Schiavo's to happen. Disabled people are considered a nuisance, something that gets in the way of getting a good parking place...a "burden"...less than human. Once society strips you of your humanity, it's just one step from being a "burden" to being "disposable". Terri was the first to cross that barrier, and that's a dangerous precedent.
What's really bad is that, because of how so many people have sided in with Michael (all the better to justify removing Grandma's feeding tube when it becomes a pain in the neck to visit her in hospice), the handicapped rights advocates will face a difficult decision. Do they take up Terri's cause, and risk public opinion turning against ALL handicapped people? Or can they somehow turn public opinion, to make people realize what has been done? Which leads to....
I know the pro-lifers and other conservatives are going to stay on this. But who is going to cross the party lines?
If only more moderates and progressives would have the guts to cross that line, then mainstream America would realize that it's not just "fanatic right-wingers" who were trying to keep a brain-dead woman alive against her will. (And that's what people mistakenly believe, hence the public opinion poll results.) They base their opinions on sound bites they hear on the six o'clock news, and the fact that all the people speaking out on Terri's behalf (before Jesse Jackson and Ralph Nader, I mean) are on the far right. So people concluded, "These right-wingers want outsiders to make private decisions for us!" Of course, they didn't realize that this is precisely what was allowed to happen: Outsiders mandated that Terri's feeding tube be removed.
Because of their preconceived notions about Pat Robertson, et.al., people made snap judgements based on brief news stories. Instead, they should have been going to Terri's family's web site and reading the actual court documents and such for themselves.
What's really bad is that even news-junkie Democrats who might normally side with the cause of a profoundly handicapped woman are so blinded by the sight of people like Randall Terry, that they just have a knee-jerk reaction: "Randall Terry = bad". Beyond that point, rational thinking comes to an abrupt halt.
As far as politicians go, I do think that some Democrats should have crossed the party line, for that would have lent credibility to the Schindlers' cause -- making it a bipartisan effort, not just a right-wing effort. But then, that would require Democratic politicians to develop a spine, and we've all seen repeatedly that they're genetically incapable of doing so.
I'm honestly not sure about it being a liberal issue. I've talked to quite a few liberals who are as outraged as I am about it. And I've seen an awful lot of people here on this board gunning for Terri's murder.
It goes beyond politics and exposes people's true faces.
bttt
Your posts are all so perfect. I can't tell you how affecting they are.
Heart-breaking, literally.
This country has lost her way.
I've spoken to many, many, many Democrats who are as appalled as you are. This isn't a Democrat/Republican issue. It's much deeper and more insidious.
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