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To: VadeRetro; PatrickHenry; Stultis; gore3000
My instinct--what, you're expecting calculations here?--is that there's no such stable orbit as "far above the ecliptic" and "fixed in position wrt the earth."

I do know the calculations and you are definitely correct. :-)

2,343 posted on 08/10/2003 2:34:43 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer; VadeRetro; Stultis
I do know the calculations and you are definitely correct.

From my point of view, the universe revolves about me. Don't need no calculations!

2,345 posted on 08/10/2003 2:41:54 PM PDT by PatrickHenry ("Virtual Ignore" is now on!)
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To: RadioAstronomer; VadeRetro
I do know the calculations and you are definitely correct [that there's no such stable orbit as "far above the ecliptic" and "fixed in position wrt the earth"].

Hold on. Doesn't have to be "far above the ecliptic." It just has to be geosynchronous. Then it's always making observations w/r/to the earth's position. It would mimic our own observations. What's wrong with that?

2,348 posted on 08/10/2003 2:51:11 PM PDT by PatrickHenry ("Virtual Ignore" is now on!)
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My instinct--what, you're expecting calculations here?--is that there's no such stable orbit as "far above the ecliptic" and "fixed in position wrt the earth."

I do know the calculations and you are definitely correct. :-)

But couldn't you shoot a probe far above the ecliptic, in an "orbit" that's fixed relative to the Sun, and another fixed relative to the Earth, and then see which one takes more fuel to keep itself in position? Seems like that should be a valid proxy for finding the true "objective fixed observer". (Recognizing that the solar system itself is in transit towards - Vega, is it?)

Just what would a "fixed position" mean, anyway? Some least-squares summation of change in vectors between the object and every other visible object in the universe? (Or at least a representative sample of stars in this galaxy?)

2,351 posted on 08/10/2003 2:57:54 PM PDT by jennyp (Science thread posters: I've signed The Agreement. Have you?)
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