Free Republic
Browse · Search
Smoky Backroom
Topics · Post Article

To: Stultis
Marx was wrong about his own beliefs? hahahaha

Yes, he was wrong that socialism is the way to go, but I don't think you are talking about that. I think you are trying to speak for Marx.

here are his own words again:
Karl Marx on Darwin:
"Darwin’s work is most important and suits my purpose in that it provides a basis in natural science for the historical class struggle. One does, of course, have to put up with the clumsy English style of argument. Despite all shortcomings, it is here that, for the first time, ‘teleology’ in natural science is not only dealt a mortal blow but its rational meaning is empirically explained."


Now are you going to try and tell us he didn't say that?
hmmm? Are you that desperate to defend evolution you would actually try to rewrite history in front of us all?
2,226 posted on 08/09/2003 11:52:49 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2223 | View Replies ]


To: ALS
Marx was wrong about his own beliefs? hahahaha

Marx was wrong that "the class struggle" is a deterministic factor that will guide history to the collapse of capitalism and the emergence of the communist utopia. (Duh!) He was also wrong that darwinian evolutionary theory "provides a basis in natural science for the historical class struggle". Even if one commits the fallacy of arguing from a scientific theory to a political theory (the naturalistic fallacy, or arguing from "is" to "ought") the two theories are divergent in every respect, as I have noted: Communism is historically deterministic, evolution is contigent; communism is collectivist, evolution is individualist; communism is finalistic, evolution is open ended; and so on.

Again, HOW does evolutionary theory provide a scientific basis for the "historical class struggle"?

2,235 posted on 08/10/2003 12:14:01 AM PDT by Stultis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2226 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Smoky Backroom
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson