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To: gore3000
He did nothing of the kind, you are reading into it far more then it is.

There is NO problem with BOTH Phyletic Gradualism, and Puncuated equilibria.

It is obvious that you do not really know what Gould and Eldredge were actually saying.

There were species that did gradually change, Phyletic Gradualism, and then they were saying that there were SOME species that rapidly changed, due to geologic isolation, climate change etc, which necessitated that quick change in order to survive.

There is NO problem with BOTH being in the theory, they do NOT contradict each other, nor do they somehow disprove evolution.

You are the one reading that into it, but I expect that from you, you're a certified ID'r(not namecalling, just stating what I believe to be a fact, if I am wrong in that assumption, please correct me).
2,184 posted on 08/09/2003 11:07:08 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: Aric2000
There is NO problem with BOTH Phyletic Gradualism, and Puncuated equilibria.

Of course there is as I already pointed out. I know what they said, I DISAGREE THAT THEIR THEORY IS VALID. I already gave the reason - it is ludicrous to say that a large amount of changes would suddenly arise together in order to create a new species.

Further your stating that there is no problem between gradual evolution and saltationism is false. The Neo-Darwinists and the Gouldians were constantly bickering with each other saying the other's theory was false. More importanly though it is totally against logic to say that a process is both sudden and gradual. You have not said anything which denies this - and indeed cannot.

2,255 posted on 08/10/2003 12:56:55 AM PDT by gore3000 (Intelligent people do not believe in evolution.)
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