Who's with President Bush?

townhall ^ | February 18, 2003 | Frank J. Gaffney, Jr.

[Jael]

Are you implying that homosexuality is something normal? Why would you say that?

Why would you think a person with a sexual deviancy is best qualified to be in a position of power?

[woofie]

That is a good synopsis

[TLBSHOW]

I stopped posting yesterday on this thread and I was going to look into it more.

I do not think President Bush is a traitor and I never said he was but I am searching why Frank thinks there is a problem and I believe it goes to Norquist as he says and Norquist is the key to this mystery.

What I think is Norquist is leeding President Bush astray.

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The Two Faces of Islam: The House of Sa’ud from Tradition to Terror
by Stephen Schwartz


LAMB: You also say that Grover Norquist, who -- who is he, by the way?


SCHWARTZ: Well, Grover Norquist is a very prominent fund-raiser, and what can I say, wheeler dealer and fixer in the Republican Party, Republican circles and in the conservative movement. And Mr. Norquist is someone who had -- prior to September 11, had cultivated the Muslim leadership in the United States, the Arab-American leadership in the United States, and had attempted to bring the American Muslim and Arab-American communities into the Republican camp, kind of as a parallel, I think, to the role of Jews in the Democratic Party. And he had formed an alliance which still he maintains with, essentially, the same group of people, the same Wahhabi, Saudi-backed radical Muslim figures who have had and had taken over and continue to exercise great influence in the leadership of the American Muslim community.

http://www.booknotes.org/Transcript/?ProgramID=1713

[Jael]

Are you saying it's just fine and dandy for sexual deviants to be given positions of power? And that over good loyal conservatives?

Why did the Christian guy get dumped by Bush after the homosexual lobby complained about him?

Plenty of Christian conservatives complained about Bush putting sexual deviants in high positions of power like he did.

Did Bush listen to the conservatives? Why not?

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Which people in this administration - or any administration - are sinless?

[Amelia]

Which six sodomites did Bush appoint instead of good loyal conservatives?

I'm still waiting to hear you explain what one's sexual practices have to do with one's political principals.

Do you not think there are homosexuals who favor limited government?

MUST one be a Christian to be a conservative? Are Jewish people allowed in your Konservative Klub?

[woofie]

Im worried ...I think I am starting to understand this thread...but when did the ratty rats and the homosexuals disagree with traitor Bush the communist and Frank Gafney? Also, does 351 have something to do with Joe Millionaire?

[TLBSHOW]

Wahhabi

Saudi Smokescreen
By Rebekah E. Reese
FrontPageMagazine.com | December 16, 2002

The Saudis are selling themselves as abused good guys and the State Department and the White House are buying it.

There is a tug of war going on in America between those who believe that the Saudis are directly or indirectly responsible for a good portion of Islamic terrorism, and those who believe the Saudis are good, long-standing allies of the United States and are doing everything possible to assist the U.S. in its fight against terror. The Saudis have of course been avidly promoting the false latter angle, but have simultaneously done little about the real sources of terrorist support in their country.

The Saudis are only willing to address terrorism and their role in financing it when confronted directly. Otherwise, they equivocate, hesitate and glad-hand with American politicians and reporters to prove to the world how moderate, modern and congenial they are.

Since 9/11, the Saudi public relations machine has been trying to convince the American public and government of their friendship while ardently disavowing Saudi involvement in the attacks or in al Qaeda. Shortly after the attacks, the King's nephew Prince Alwaleed bin Talal attempted to appease America with a $10 million contribution to New York City. The Saudi royal family has purchased full-page newspaper ads in national papers as well as national TV spots. Several American PR firms have been retained by the Saudis. One was used to distribute a document to Capitol Hill staffers, another is placing ads proclaiming the Kingdom as a staunch U.S. ally, and yet another was hired to push the Saudi's "peace plan," after it was released last winter. Their smiling, American and Americanized spokespersons are on a campaign to spread love of this quasi-medieval kingdom that is deeply ambivalent about America.

Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah leaked his "peace plan" for Israel and Palestine to New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman in February 2002. The plan was a distraction attempt, since there was nothing in the peace plan that had not already been suggested, save that after Israel and Palestine became peaceful, the Saudis would graciously recognize the state of Israel. When news of the plan came out, the Saudis had been taking a beating in the American court of public opinion due to their unwillingness to work with the U.S. in the war on terror. The peace plan and the media frenzy that followed temporarily distracted attention away from the Saudi's connections to terrorist organizations, and gave them breathing space. The Saudi government, or at least its paid consultants in Washington, are nothing if not shrewd, being gifted with the political skills of the bazaar and those required to stay alive in the lethal but always-shifting political sands of the Middle East.

The Saudis did something similar in November 2002, when the news broke that Princess Haifa al-Faisal, wife of Prince Bandar, the Saudi ambassador to America, indirectly financially supported two of the 9/11 terrorists. A firestorm of outrage and accusation broke out against the Saudis. Adel al-Jubeir, a top foreign affairs aide to Crown Prince Abdullah, was the main spokesperson at a news conference December 3. He tried to put a good spin on the recently publicized details regarding how frequently Saudi royal funds end up directly supporting terrorists. Al-Jubeir, incidentally, announced new Saudi measures to regulate the flow of such funds.

The American-educated al-Jubeir, also known among the media as "the Sultan of Spin," is smooth and articulate. He presents Saudi Arabia as being much-abused and insulted by the accusations against his beloved nation. He portrays himself as the voice of reason who must somehow explain the simple ‘truth’ to befuddled American masses - who do not truly understand the real issues. He is tasked with communicating how hard the Kingdom is trying to halt terrorism. Al-Jubeir gently condemned allegations of terrorist funding, proclaiming that they were "More a function of domestic American politics. We're just the political football."

Although the Saudi government presents a friendly, supportive face to the West, it presents an entirely different one to Muslims. The Saudi state religion, Wahhabism, is an extreme sect of Islam invented in the 18th century and intimately tied up with the legitimacy of the al Saud family as rulers of the kingdom. Its closest analogy within the Judeo-Christian tradition would be one of extreme varieties of Protestantism that once existed: perhaps Calvinism in its original form, or perhaps the militarist Puritanism of Oliver Cromwell. The Sauds feel obliged to support it, both for the practical reason of maintaining the support of local clergy, and for the ideological reason that they have no other political philosophy. The two main Saudi exports are oil and religion. Without their religious foundations, it is unlikely that the nation of tribes could have held together. The discovery and drilling of oil cemented the foundation. The Saudis deliberately export, at huge financial expense, their peculiar brand of Islam around the world in an attempt to gain political influence and to placate their own extremists. The money that the Saudis receive from oil exports has been used to support various terrorist organizations and Wahhabi indoctrination centers worldwide. A majority of American mosques are Wahhabi-financed.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=5104

[Jael]

I don't know who you are and I don't care. Let that be enough for you right now.

If you can't follow a thread, go away.

[Salvation]

"Either you are with us or you are for the terrorists."
~~George W. Bush

[wimpycat]

Me=sinner
You=sinner
Jael=sinner
Amelia=sinner
Howlin=sinner
TLBSHOW=sinner
Homosexuals in the Bush Administration=sinners

We're all equal. And anyone's personal relationship with Jesus Christ is between the sinner and Jesus.

[Howlin]

I do not think President Bush is a traitor and I never said he was

To: Sabertooth

I think I will have to say this country is being sold out from within and from who is what really saddens me tonight.

23 posted on 02/17/2003 11:27 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)

[woofie]

never mind #443 cleared it all up ...It was Grover Norquist

[Jael]

BTW, if you too are not a real conservative, that isn't my problem. Face the fact, supporting and condoning sexual deviancy is not a conservative value.

[TLBSHOW]

The Wahhabi Lobby Loses


Wednesday, August 21, 2002
By Frank Gaffney, Jr.


Yesterday's primary defeat in Georgia of Rep. Cynthia McKinney marks the latest in a series of serious setbacks to what has become known as the Wahhabi Lobby.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,61006,00.html

[TLBSHOW]

Grover Norquist

is who

[Howlin]

Those are your words, Todd. Live with it.

[Jael]

If the President has not rebuked these people who are around him who are involved in terrorism, it is you that has the probelm.

Do you remember 9/11?

[A Citizen Reporter]

"I do not think President Bush is a traitor and I never said he was"

To: Sabertooth

I think I will have to say this country is being sold out from within and from who is what really saddens me tonight.

23 posted on 02/17/2003 11:27 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)

[HairOfTheDog]

You seem really obsessed with Homosexuals! I just avoid that which I find distastful. You seem to like to roll in it.