Good heavens what a narrow mind. Your arguments at best were interesting. You neither showed that such descent is impossible nor that it must be true for any theory of evolution to be viable. Try using your imagination a little, I think you'll see many alternative paths popping up.
under Christianity
Which Christian theocracy are you speaking of? Science has flourished no place more than in the U.S. Hardly a theocracy.
deny science by claiming that matter organizes itself by random means
Who is claiming that? And if someone is, how is it denying science? So many dubious premises.
There sure have been, lots of them from your fellow evolutionist Dan Day
I would only suggest to him that he not waste time with such a disingenuous thick-skulled dolt who deserves only the same amount of considered argument as he produces (and I'm not referring to you).
Nonsense. First of all evolutionists have been claiming for 150 years that evolution is true yet, they have absolutely no scientific proof that the transition from egg-laying to live bearing is possible. This is not a matter of imagination. Imagination is for the Art Bell crowd, science is about evidence. All the scientific evidence points to the impossibility of this transformation. I pointed out the problems which make it impossible in post# 751 which has been studiously ignored by evolutionists. You will find it below and the scientific evidence to back it up was already provided in Post# 257 , Post# 425 , and Post# 542 . If you want imagination, stick to Hansel and Gretel:
The main reason why it could not have happened in a single generation has already been explained to you numerous times but you keep evading it. The process requires changes in both the mother and the baby to work. This means coordination of the changes between the mother and the baby. This means at least more than one thing had to be changed at once. There is no way this could have occurred in a single generation by stochastic means. You also are in the habit of speaking of organs as if they can arise by a single mutation. There are numerous new organs involved here such as the chorion, and the placenta which could not have arisen by just a single mutation and thus could not have happened in a single generation. There are as I have detailed some half dozen proteins necessary just to get the placenta to adhere to the uterus - and make the uterus receptive to the placenta. Again, this could not have happened with one mutation in a single generation. In live birth, the wastes are kept in the amniotic sac which surrounds the baby, in egg layers, the wastes are kept in a sac not surrounding the baby. This is a very big change which could not have happened with one mutation and hence could not have arisen in one generation. In egg layers the nutritional arteries and the waste arteries are totally separate and have different destinations, in the live bearing they are both joined together in the umbilical cord. This is another change that would have required more than one mutation and hence could not have occurred in one generation.
'Scuse me for butting in, but the fact that the US is not a formal theocracy, does not vacate the uniquely powerful influence of Christianity upon the thinking of our Founders and the ideals upon which our nation is based. To say that America has not existed "under Christianity " is historical malpractice.
A great new little book, "On Two Wings" by Michael Novak details this reality. Novak speaks of how faith and reason combined in the American mind to produce an intellectual life uniquely suited to inquiry and discovery.
Unfortunately, our educational system, fearing we might offend someone ( such a sin!! ), has provided us with a generation that is fast becoming ignorant of their roots. For many who think they "know" the Founders," this book will deliver a most unpleasant shock.