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To: beavus
A belief doesn't necessarily die simply because it is incompatible with reason or observation. In fact, it is often the opposite.

Seems to me that it is the evolutionists who are failing (miserably!) in providing reason and observation in support of their theory. They are insulting, indulging in rhetoric, and trying to discuss everything but the evidence for their theory. It is those opposed to evolution that are providing solid scientific facts to support their views. Since the facts are the same for everyone and available to all, one has to wonder how evolutionists can say their view is true when they cannot find facts to support it but their opponents can easily do so.

754 posted on 01/20/2003 9:44:25 PM PST by gore3000
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To: gore3000
Seems to me that it is the evolutionists who are failing (miserably!) in providing reason and observation in support of their theory. They are insulting, indulging in rhetoric, and trying to discuss everything but the evidence for their theory. It is those opposed to evolution that are providing solid scientific facts to support their views. Since the facts are the same for everyone and available to all, one has to wonder how evolutionists can say their view is true when they cannot find facts to support it but their opponents can easily do so.

I'll grant you some of the creationists are at least trying to find evidence to fit their predetermined conclusions. This is a step above complete denial of science. I'll also grant that the evidence is sparse enough to admit a number of theories. That no one on this thread has presented evidence consistent with evolutionary theories is not correct. Certainly nothing has yet been presented to demonstrate the impossibility of any evolutionary theories. That being the case, you're not going to stop people from attempting to explain development of life on earth in terms consistent with our other observations in nature--along a continuum.

There have been insults. In thoughtful debate they have no place. In the rude refusal of the give-and-take of dialogue, the thoughtless theft of sincere debate for a crude sounding board, it is open season on the perpetrator.

771 posted on 01/21/2003 3:55:22 AM PST by beavus ("He complains too much." "You'd complain too if you sucked!")
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