[exmarine]

More accurately stated, the point made is in direct opposition to your contention that absolute morality depends on the Christian God.

Hahaha. Not hardly. All it proves is that some Christian ideas may predate Christianity. It says nothing about the source of moral absolutes.

As I have stated repeatedly, if moral absolutes do not come from God, then they MUST COME FROM MAN. If they come from man, they are relative to man. If they are relative to man, then they are mere preferences and have no universal or objective existence. Those are your only two choices - either morals are relative or they are from God. You must either choose one of these two or give me a third option. Choose. I'll wait for your answer.

[Condorman]

either morals are relative or they are from God.

C'mon soldier, ya gotta to do better'n that. Us heathens call this False Dichotomy. A day or so ago you notioned that God might jus' determine morality any ol' way, but that since we all is just dumb ol' clay we ain't allowed to notice this.

Don't quite jive with the tune your jukebox is playin' now, do it?

[Condorman]

All it proves is that some Christian ideas may predate Christianity. It says nothing about the source of moral absolutes.

Hmm... now here is an interesting philosophical puzzle:

If a god has no believers, can it be said to exist? Alternatively, which came first, the God or the worshippers, and what is the interval between the two?