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To: Sherlock
Where do you see that Angela admitted that she called Moul's shop on May 30th? I have both transcripts & they don't read that way at all, Sherl. If they did say what you are insisting, King, Geragos, & particularly Nancy Grace, would have pounced on that date in a flat second.

More & more, it appears that you, Sherl, have a personal reason for trying to mislead & direct us toward Rick & Angela as the guilty parties.

Dominick Dunne's observation on the Smart family was as on target as one can get...there's something wrong with them & the entire scenario.

409 posted on 12/16/2002 3:01:33 PM PST by lakey
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To: lakey
I have both transcripts & they don't read that way at all, Sherl.

You'd better read them again, lakey, these quotes are copy & pasted from the LKL transcript website.

410 posted on 12/16/2002 3:58:44 PM PST by Sherlock
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To: lakey
I realize how damning this is to your heroine, lakey. Here's some more detail on the July 1 interview to help you locate it, starting from a commercial break. This part looks like it starts about 10-15 minutes into the show:

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KING: We're back with Angela Ricci, the wife of Richard Ricci, who's the focus of police investigation but not a suspect, and the attorney for both Richard and Angela, David Smith.

He is not a suspect, right?

SMITH: He is not a suspect.

KING: Why not? I mean, what's the delineation?

SMITH: I believe the reason is, there's simply not enough forensic evidence to make a tie-in. And that's the reason.

KING: So they have to have a tie-in.

SMITH: I believe...

KING: So would you say he's suspicious to them?

SMITH: Sure, he's suspicious, but they just don't have a tie...

KING: During the days following the abduction, was he gone for any period of time that you would say, where's Richard?

RICCI: No. Absolutely not.

KING: Would you ever conceive of him harming a child?

RICCI: Never. Never.

Especially, as I said before, he had a son that died. And that put a very big hole in his heart. And I just know that he would never put another hole in another human being's heart such as that.

KING: So wouldn't it have even been a kidnapping for ransom?

RICCI: Absolutely not, no.

KING: You could not see him doing?

RICCI: No, no.

KING: And did he say that to you a lot? Because -- did he say, you know, he had a son who was killed?

RICCI: Yes. We've talked about it. We've talked about that a lot. And he's expressed the emptiness in his heart. So I know how strongly he feels about that.

KING: How has he been treated at the grand jury? RICCI: They were OK. They just basically asked the same questions that I've had in investigation, and that's that. I can't really discuss what happened in the room. They were OK.

KING: And you're not allowed in that room, right?

SMITH: No.

KING: Now, the mechanic on the car claimed somebody identifying herself at you called to say her husband would be picking up the Jeep.

Was that you?

RICCI: No, it wasn't.

And just real quickly...

KING: What do you make of it?

RICCI: Well, any time that I've ever called -- either Richard or I have ever called the shop regarding mechanical work on that vehicle, we are not that formal with the mechanic to call and say, this is Mr. or Mrs. Ricci.

If I were to call that place, he would only know me, myself, as white Jeep, electronic fuel pump. You know, I've experienced this when I've called there before.

So, you know, it wasn't me, and I don't have a clue as to where that came from.

KING: Do you see this as a case, David, of wrong place, wrong time? Just a set of circumstances are pointing to -- like it's a "Law and Order" chapter until they find the other twist?

SMITH: Exactly. That's where I believe it's at.

KING: Because if it was him -- if, God forbid, from your standpoint it was him -- she's dead, isn't she?

SMITH: I believe that would have to be the case. I can't imagine that he would be sitting there in jail for the last, what, 15, 16 days and, you know, where would she be? Who would be taking care of her?

KING: Unless there was a collaboration
411 posted on 12/16/2002 4:11:07 PM PST by Sherlock
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To: lakey
This is at about the same point in the interview as the July 1 interview, about 10-15 minutes into it. Maybe you can find this now in your transcripts.

Aired September 4
http://www.silenter.com/cgi-bin/nph-go.cgi/00000/687474702f7777772e636e6e2e636f6d2f5452414e534352495054532f303230392f30342f6c6b6c2e30302e68746d6c

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, "LARRY KING LIVE," August 28, 2002)

ED SMART, FATHER OF ELIZABETH SMART: I believe he knows a lot more than what he's told us, and I have been -- I, along with so many people, have been praying that his heart would be softened, that he would tell us, you know, just bring an end to this nightmare.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KING: That was the missing Elizabeth Smart's father Ed, talking about the late Mr. Ricci two days before he would die, after he went into the coma. You're going to read to us a letter he sent to you from prison.

RICCI: Can I respond to what I just heard?

KING: Sure.

RICCI: You know, Rick was extremely heartbroken over Elizabeth's disappearance. He did tell them everything that he knew. He gave them everything he had. He just didn't give them what they wanted to hear.

KING: He liked Elizabeth?

RICCI: Well, he liked -- he always talked about...

KING: How extremely heartbroken he was, must have remembered her.

RICCI: Well, heartbroken for the Smart family. The only one he ever really spoke of was Ed. He didn't go on about the girls.

KING: Did he speak of him in nice terms?

RICCI: Yes, yes, he had respect for Ed, thought he was a good businessman and -- you know, and he mentioned that the girls played the harp and he thought that was cool. But as far as spending time with the children...

KING: So he was heartbroken for the situation?

RICCI: Exactly. Exactly.

KING: Before you read from the letter, Nancy, what is Angela attempting to do?

POMEROY: I think she's just attempting to give balance. Because if you read the papers and you go through the media, and I think for the most part they've tried to be balanced in some areas, but all they're getting is his rap sheet. They're getting his rap sheet. They're getting anything wrong that he ever did. And people are coming out in droves saying, well, this is my experience, and this is the way he is. And she's trying to represent the family and say, this is the Richard we knew, and just balance it. So you make up your own mind.

KING: The police wound up saying that they will never be able to get anything unless they find a body or she comes back. And it seems they're out of leads, right?

POMEROY: Well, they're working on other things, but they've put so much focus on Richard, the other things haven't been focused on as much.

RICCI: I think he was heartbroken, the day that they dug up our yard, he was on the phone with me. He was still in jail. And he said, Angela, this is so sad, they're wasting their time. They have the wrong guy, you know.

KING: What did he say in the letter?

RICCI: And so what he said here is -- he says: "I guess the only thing I would like the public to know would be I really don't know anybody who would kidnap a child. I don't have many friends, just family. I had nothing to do with the abduction. I don't know how a child abductor thinks. I just can't believe it."

KING: So you know that your husband had problems in life and he did do some petty stuff.

RICCI: Yes.

KING: But never anything like this?

RICCI: Never anything like this, never.

KING: And never an interest in young children?

RICCI: Never. KING: Now, about the mystery of the white Jeep, which I'm going to -- I want to make sure my notes are right, that the repair shop owner maintains that your husband left the Jeep at his shop, took the vehicle May 30, returned it June 8, 500 miles on it. The repair shop owner also maintains that Mr. Ricci took a post hole digger out of the Jeep, removed two seat covers, carried away another bag, met a second man across the street from the repair shop. Ricci steadfastly denied taking the Jeep. Did you discuss this with Richard?

RICCI: Yes, I did discuss with Rick several times. He did not take that Jeep.

KING: So the guy is wrong or lying?

RICCI: He's mistaken. Maybe someone took that Jeep, but it wasn't Rick. There were keys stolen to that Jeep. That Jeep has never had seat covers, ever had seat covers. To my knowledge, I don't know that he spoke with the person that took the Jeep or brought the Jeep back, only that he observed that it was gone and came back. I'm not sure of the full report on that. You know, I know Rick didn't have the Jeep. I know I didn't have the jeep. No one at his work saw the Jeep.

KING: Has any of the police pressured you to change your side of the story, that he was with you that night?

RICCI: They tried to turn me against Rick all the time. He was in bed with me. That's the truth.

KING: And they did try to say that that was not the truth?

RICCI: Yes. They're trying to make me think he's a cat burglar that sneaks out at night. And that's just not the truth.

KING: Did he take a lie detector test?

RICCI: Yes, he did. And no one, not even his attorneys have gotten the results of that test.

KING: So nobody's announced whether he passed it, failed it or anything?

RICCI: No. Well, they printed in the paper that he failed.

KING: But you don't know that for a fact?

RICCI: But I don't know that for a fact.

KING: Did they ask you to take one?

RICCI: I did take one and I passed with flying colors. The FBI told me that.

KING: So when you say he was with you that night -- the FBI told you. And when you say he was with you that night, you are telling the truth. RICCI: Yes. I have been telling the truth from the gate.

KING: Have you talked to the Smarts?

RICCI: I did speak with Ed Smart. He pulled me aside after Rick's first court appearance.

KING: And?

RICCI: And he asked me about the Jeep. And my opinion the whole time has been that I think someone else took that Jeep. The keys were stolen to that Jeep.

KING: So therefore, you think Elizabeth has been harmed?

RICCI: I don't know. I don't even think the Jeep has anything to do with the disappearance, to be honest with you. I just think if it was Rick's Jeep that was gone, it was just weird timing. Now, I did call the mechanic at one time, and this is important to me. I called him one time to talk to him about the mechanical problem. The mechanic went into a different mechanical problem. I said, no, the electronic fuel pump. and he conveyed to me, oh, I have two, three white Jeeps here now.

KING: There were other white Jeeps.

RICCI: Yes. He said, I have two, three white Jeeps here now.

KING: White Jeeps are fairly common, right? in Utah especially.

POMEROY: They are, especially in Utah.

RICCI: And I told the police that as well.
412 posted on 12/16/2002 4:24:56 PM PST by Sherlock
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