[niki]

It is about two very bad moderators that Jim refuses to remove.

Is the problem with the moderators, the catty clique or both?

[ArneFufkin]

The moderators are fine. They're like hockey refs .. sometimes they see a thread getting rough and they start throwing guys in the box to send a message.

No forum, anywhere, allows the language, subject matter and cranky characters that FR does. Nowhere.

The real problem the malcontents have is that they are wanted, accepted and abided NOWHERE ELSE in the world but here. They can't go anywhere, they're thrown out of every other established forum within a day, and they cannibalize each other when they try to set up their own home. They need FR, it's a testament to the generosity of this proprietor that they last as long as they do. They'd be smoked from every other community, cyberspace or REAL, on Earth.

That's the angst and passion underlying this foolish tussle for power. They need FR desperately.