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Our Republic and Our Free Republic
9-6-02 | Joe Phillips

Posted on 09/06/2002 8:17:16 AM PDT by BADJOE

History teaches some very good lessons. They are hard to learn but our forefathers did a great job.

From the beginning of time man has overthrown one form of centralized government only to re-establish another one in its place. Our forefathers understood this far better than anyone ever had. They said governments are the eternal enemy of free men. They said that in order for man to remain free it would take a bloody revolution every other generation, unless you bound down (bastard) government with the chains of the constitution.

On another site this week a poster asked if anyone else hated government as much as he did. I replied to him

"Hell !! I thought you were not a good American if you didn't love our country and hate our government.

At least that is how I have always felt about it"

I think our forefathers had the same attitude that I have now. And I think it is inherent in the average Americans attitude to distrust and have disdain for any government, including ours. One of the hardest conclusions I had to arrive at as a young man, after having been a product of the public school system, was that our government was not on our side. As James Forrestahl, former secretary of the Navy, who suffered a mysterious death, once said about our State Department's foreign policy, " Stupidity is never a mark of consistancy. If they were merely stupid, they would occasionally make a mistake in our favor".

Newt Gringrich put it in a humourous manner when talking about the attitude of Europeans. He related the following story. If you go to Europe and drive on the Autobahn, you feel pretty good cruising down the highway at 100 mph when some some German passes you doing 140 mph. Now he said if the Bundestag passed the 55mph speed limit law, every German would dutifully obey that law, untill the next election. They would vote the 55 mph crowd out of office and the no speed limit crowd in. In America Newt said "A speed limit sign is a benchmark of opportunity.

It is obvious that Yankees and Euros have entirely different attitudes about government's edicts. There are darn few Americans who do not break the speed limit laws everyday.

Now we come to the Free Republic. Once a free wheeling, joyful site for news and discussion of politics, economics, philosophy, ethics and morals. I could not understand the transformation that has taken place in the last six months. Camaraderie, the sense of family, and cooperation seems to have disappeared. Are the Freepers exhibiting the same disdain for the new FR as Americans have for our government?


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To: willide
Oh, come on. You owe us an opus.
1,521 posted on 09/06/2002 10:07:13 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: ArneFufkin
I don't like unusual generosity exploited then dishonorably smeared. Anywhere, anytime in my life. tpaine needs a slapping, he's the worst of the worst people I've ever encountered. He adds nothing to the brew, he's a destroyer and ingrate.
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Listen creep. -- I have never 'exploited' this forum or dishonored JR. -- We disagee a lot. -- On the petty details. - We agree on the constitution.

Your opinion of me means nothing, cause you're a crazy. It's obvious in your posting style. - Some here egg you on for their own purposes. Bad on them.
Don't be fooled, they are not your friends. You never will have friends here.
-- Now, ----take your meds, and get rest. Good boy. Down.
1,522 posted on 09/06/2002 10:07:26 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: harrowup
Don't kid yourself. tpaine is a rotting bilge in our midst. The guy needs to learn some social amenities. Regarding him giving me a good licking ... the oly guys who can beat me up have the same opinion of a guy like tpaine that I do.
1,523 posted on 09/06/2002 10:07:41 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: justshe
LOL FR must have the best plumbing on the net.
1,524 posted on 09/06/2002 10:07:59 PM PDT by swheats
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To: one_particular_harbour
Or a little paula abdul, as Niki sings about fred...

Rush, Rush... hurry hurry... etc... ;0)

Or, maybe Niki IS Fred? In whcih case, the above still applies... ;0)

1,526 posted on 09/06/2002 10:08:18 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: BADJOE
Has FR been bought by the GOP behind the scenes?

No Joe, it hasn't. There is another explanation for it.

I bought it and own it lock, stock, and freepers.

Why are you doing this again? I thought I saw a big make up thread recently?

1,527 posted on 09/06/2002 10:08:24 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: MJY1288
3. I get enough anti-global warming ammunition to leave my Green Peace friends gasping like whales impaled on a old growth redwood during a brush fire. The water for fire fighting is, of course, used to breed snail darters.

ROFLMAO. A classic, no doubt.

1,528 posted on 09/06/2002 10:08:30 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: MJY1288
Up yours.
1,529 posted on 09/06/2002 10:09:19 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: willide
C-YA
1,530 posted on 09/06/2002 10:09:33 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: justshe
And yours
1,531 posted on 09/06/2002 10:10:23 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: willide
What? No Opus from such a well-know, active freeper such as yourself? We are being robbed! Robbed, I say!
1,533 posted on 09/06/2002 10:10:56 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: swheats
There really aren't THAT many 'visitors'.

They just have an inordinate amount of chit!
1,534 posted on 09/06/2002 10:11:02 PM PDT by justshe
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To: one_particular_harbour
Musta been some magazine ;0)
1,535 posted on 09/06/2002 10:11:31 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: tpaine; MJY1288
Up yours.

That's got to be one of the most impressive and original flames I've seen lately.

1,536 posted on 09/06/2002 10:11:33 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: niki
Confused with what and/or whom? Who is a racist? It's your chosen label and if you can't back it up, don't use it.
1,537 posted on 09/06/2002 10:11:53 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Wait a minute now. I'm getting confused.

I know it's late....but does Beckie know about Niki and Fred?
1,538 posted on 09/06/2002 10:12:12 PM PDT by justshe
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