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Our Republic and Our Free Republic
9-6-02 | Joe Phillips

Posted on 09/06/2002 8:17:16 AM PDT by BADJOE

History teaches some very good lessons. They are hard to learn but our forefathers did a great job.

From the beginning of time man has overthrown one form of centralized government only to re-establish another one in its place. Our forefathers understood this far better than anyone ever had. They said governments are the eternal enemy of free men. They said that in order for man to remain free it would take a bloody revolution every other generation, unless you bound down (bastard) government with the chains of the constitution.

On another site this week a poster asked if anyone else hated government as much as he did. I replied to him

"Hell !! I thought you were not a good American if you didn't love our country and hate our government.

At least that is how I have always felt about it"

I think our forefathers had the same attitude that I have now. And I think it is inherent in the average Americans attitude to distrust and have disdain for any government, including ours. One of the hardest conclusions I had to arrive at as a young man, after having been a product of the public school system, was that our government was not on our side. As James Forrestahl, former secretary of the Navy, who suffered a mysterious death, once said about our State Department's foreign policy, " Stupidity is never a mark of consistancy. If they were merely stupid, they would occasionally make a mistake in our favor".

Newt Gringrich put it in a humourous manner when talking about the attitude of Europeans. He related the following story. If you go to Europe and drive on the Autobahn, you feel pretty good cruising down the highway at 100 mph when some some German passes you doing 140 mph. Now he said if the Bundestag passed the 55mph speed limit law, every German would dutifully obey that law, untill the next election. They would vote the 55 mph crowd out of office and the no speed limit crowd in. In America Newt said "A speed limit sign is a benchmark of opportunity.

It is obvious that Yankees and Euros have entirely different attitudes about government's edicts. There are darn few Americans who do not break the speed limit laws everyday.

Now we come to the Free Republic. Once a free wheeling, joyful site for news and discussion of politics, economics, philosophy, ethics and morals. I could not understand the transformation that has taken place in the last six months. Camaraderie, the sense of family, and cooperation seems to have disappeared. Are the Freepers exhibiting the same disdain for the new FR as Americans have for our government?


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To: Chad Fairbanks; Southflanknorthpawsis
nice and gentlemanly would be the right way to do it.
Of course, if there was an agenda, though, that way wouldn't work...

Sure smells like an agenda to me ..

1,301 posted on 09/06/2002 8:23:56 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: MJY1288
You want to know my take? Joe lost his gig as the gatekeeper and processor of all credit card donations to FR. That was the inference to losing the funding mechanism before establishing a backup. Joe's out of the loop. Maybe he lost a source of income that accompanied his prior service. Maybe he's feeling pissed off and betrayed because Jim isn't going to let him set up the bowling pins by hand anymore.

I'm wildly speculating here, but if I'm right: that's too damn bad for Badjoe. This is not about two administrative moderators. No way, Joe isn't that ideological, he NEVER has been in my tenure here. This is about money.

1,302 posted on 09/06/2002 8:24:36 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: tpaine
Come down immediately Tpaine


1,303 posted on 09/06/2002 8:24:48 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Leave him up there.
1,304 posted on 09/06/2002 8:26:47 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Texasforever; tpaine
Careful Tpaine the cult may perform an exorcism on you.

The fact that he is still here would seem to indicate that the mods aren't quite the "Gestapo" they've been claimed to be.

I personally see very little value to his posts or lame attempts at flames (except for amusement value) but that's just my opinion.

1,305 posted on 09/06/2002 8:26:48 PM PDT by Amelia
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My second glass of sauvignon blanc has slowed my refresh button. You folks are about 20 posts ahead of me all the time. Sigh.

I hate being a freshman.
1,306 posted on 09/06/2002 8:26:57 PM PDT by justshe
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To: Mo1
Yup... I smell the distinct aroma of baked agenda...
1,307 posted on 09/06/2002 8:27:09 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Miss Marple
I am having a martini. Care for one?

To happy Freepers. *CLINK*

1,308 posted on 09/06/2002 8:28:01 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Texasforever
Good Gawd, have you ever witnessed such a clymer in all your life. tpaine reminds of that fellow on Mayberry RFD "Earnest T. Bass" he comes out of the woods throwing rocks at anyone and everyone. I sure wish his dad would take the puter away
1,309 posted on 09/06/2002 8:28:07 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: MJY1288
tpaine's dad fought in the War of 1812
1,310 posted on 09/06/2002 8:29:07 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Chad......where did you post your comment at that other place? Which thread?
1,311 posted on 09/06/2002 8:29:22 PM PDT by justshe
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis; Miss Marple
Drinking water, but I'll *CLINK*.
1,312 posted on 09/06/2002 8:29:46 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: TontoKowalski; Howlin; Miss Marple
Oh just another typical Friday night at FR.com.

Psst! Beware though. I read that there are cultists on this thread now. Reject all offers of purple koolaid.

1,313 posted on 09/06/2002 8:30:23 PM PDT by rintense
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To: Amelia; tpaine
He is kept around for one purpose, a constant reminder of what not to become.
1,315 posted on 09/06/2002 8:31:03 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
To water and rightfully proud daughters of vets. *CLINK*
1,316 posted on 09/06/2002 8:31:08 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
So I'm away for a day, and look at all I missed!

Are we all happy? I'm happy!
1,317 posted on 09/06/2002 8:32:28 PM PDT by wimpycat
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To: BADJOE
It is about two very bad moderators that Jim refuses to remove.

Is the problem with the moderators, the catty clique or both?

1,318 posted on 09/06/2002 8:33:28 PM PDT by niki
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To: Miss Marple
Would you ask Fufkin how it is he can post while drunk without one single spelling or grammatical error?
I have noticed that as I move on to my second martini, I seem to have problems. Is there a special button?
_________________________________

No need, I know why. -- Fufkin is a natural born pedant.

-- As to that special button, its labeled 'OFF'.
1,320 posted on 09/06/2002 8:34:07 PM PDT by tpaine
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