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Our Republic and Our Free Republic
9-6-02 | Joe Phillips

Posted on 09/06/2002 8:17:16 AM PDT by BADJOE

History teaches some very good lessons. They are hard to learn but our forefathers did a great job.

From the beginning of time man has overthrown one form of centralized government only to re-establish another one in its place. Our forefathers understood this far better than anyone ever had. They said governments are the eternal enemy of free men. They said that in order for man to remain free it would take a bloody revolution every other generation, unless you bound down (bastard) government with the chains of the constitution.

On another site this week a poster asked if anyone else hated government as much as he did. I replied to him

"Hell !! I thought you were not a good American if you didn't love our country and hate our government.

At least that is how I have always felt about it"

I think our forefathers had the same attitude that I have now. And I think it is inherent in the average Americans attitude to distrust and have disdain for any government, including ours. One of the hardest conclusions I had to arrive at as a young man, after having been a product of the public school system, was that our government was not on our side. As James Forrestahl, former secretary of the Navy, who suffered a mysterious death, once said about our State Department's foreign policy, " Stupidity is never a mark of consistancy. If they were merely stupid, they would occasionally make a mistake in our favor".

Newt Gringrich put it in a humourous manner when talking about the attitude of Europeans. He related the following story. If you go to Europe and drive on the Autobahn, you feel pretty good cruising down the highway at 100 mph when some some German passes you doing 140 mph. Now he said if the Bundestag passed the 55mph speed limit law, every German would dutifully obey that law, untill the next election. They would vote the 55 mph crowd out of office and the no speed limit crowd in. In America Newt said "A speed limit sign is a benchmark of opportunity.

It is obvious that Yankees and Euros have entirely different attitudes about government's edicts. There are darn few Americans who do not break the speed limit laws everyday.

Now we come to the Free Republic. Once a free wheeling, joyful site for news and discussion of politics, economics, philosophy, ethics and morals. I could not understand the transformation that has taken place in the last six months. Camaraderie, the sense of family, and cooperation seems to have disappeared. Are the Freepers exhibiting the same disdain for the new FR as Americans have for our government?


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To: Howlin
You know what I'm thinking, you know who the person was who KNOWS about this stuff, and I am not saying, either! Hahaha!

I am not called Miss Marple for nothing.

1,121 posted on 09/06/2002 7:07:05 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Texasforever; ATOMIC_PUNK; The Old Hoosier; OldFriend; nopardons; Kevin Curry; Miss Marple; ...
Hehehe. Can you imagine trusting that guy with mowing your lawn much less with being a 'sentry over America'?
1,122 posted on 09/06/2002 7:07:26 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: TigersEye
LOL!
1,123 posted on 09/06/2002 7:07:35 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Chad Fairbanks
:o) Let me say this Chad.. my MONEY isn't ON ME winning,... DRATS!!!

But you know what.. I just posted some things JimRob has stated is his purpose in having this website. Notice that one of them was having FUN. Well, a bunch of us just did. And that "is a good thing".. (I know, now I'm being Martha'esque) :o)
1,124 posted on 09/06/2002 7:07:50 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: justshe
Don't feel bad... I mean, I'm a bigger asswipe than anyone on that list, but do I get any recognition? No...

Personally, I think it's rigged... ;0)

1,125 posted on 09/06/2002 7:08:23 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Cultural Jihad
I think that a clue is screen names. The more grandiose, the more likely I am not to agree with them.
1,126 posted on 09/06/2002 7:09:05 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
BTW, thank you for your continued support.........LOL.
1,127 posted on 09/06/2002 7:09:48 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Sorry... I was just quoting some Spinal Tap... ;0)

That being said, "Listen to the whining from Libertypost.org... you can make a post, and go have a bite, and come back and it's still whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!"

heh heh heh

1,128 posted on 09/06/2002 7:10:20 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Hey! How does one get on that lits (to use an old newsfroup term)????

I really don't have any idea. I am one of the most easygoing, non-confrontational guys on this site. (Said with abject humility)

1,129 posted on 09/06/2002 7:10:37 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: justshe
Now, you know yourself, you've only been posting for a shot time.....you mostly lurked.....give it some time. You'll make it yet!
1,130 posted on 09/06/2002 7:10:53 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Awesome...no?
1,131 posted on 09/06/2002 7:11:29 PM PDT by justshe
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Cicero, Aquinas, Gallileo, Kafka, Chad Fairbanks ... some brilliant minds just aren't appreciated in their time.
1,132 posted on 09/06/2002 7:11:30 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Texasforever
Odd... I mean, I'm CERTAINLY a bigger asswipe than you...
1,133 posted on 09/06/2002 7:11:31 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Texasforever
Darn it.
1,134 posted on 09/06/2002 7:11:37 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: ArneFufkin
Well, at least I'm in good company... LOL...

But I absolutely draw the line at dropping my balls off a tower...

1,135 posted on 09/06/2002 7:12:37 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Chad Fairbanks
"If I told them once, I told them a thousan times...it's Spinal Tap first, Puppet Show last."
1,136 posted on 09/06/2002 7:13:28 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: Texasforever
Tex, sorry, the A$$wipe list is penny ante ... you are a member of the "Gang of Three". That's an exclusive club, my friend
1,137 posted on 09/06/2002 7:13:30 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Miss Marple
Are you just making sense again?
1,138 posted on 09/06/2002 7:13:45 PM PDT by deport
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To: Howlin; Miss Marple
Oh yeah, well I say:

Luck the fists!

1,139 posted on 09/06/2002 7:13:53 PM PDT by rintense
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Odd... I mean, I'm CERTAINLY a bigger asswipe than you...

I am sure the voting was rigged.

1,140 posted on 09/06/2002 7:14:18 PM PDT by Texasforever
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