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To: little jeremiah; Fred Nerks
Actually once a person kicks out all (ALL) preconceptions about what they know about Zero...

Okay, let's start over and begin with this thought...



Assume it's true. And thus the tale begins.



and there are some similarities here:



The similarities to zer0 have already been discussed, so we can move on...

King Kamehameha had a son Prince Pauli Ka'oleioku, who's granddaughter Bernice married Charles Reed Bishop in 1850, who later opened the first chartered bank in the Kingdom of Hawaii in 1858, which eventually becomes the First Hawaiian Bank in 1960.

In the meantime, Bishop leaves Hawaii and moves to San Francisco, but remains very active in real estate, hiring architect C. W. Dickey of the Alexander & Baldwin families.

C. W. Dickey designed the Baldwin Homes for men and Charles R. Bishop Home for women, buildings at the Punahou School, most of the banks and other famous buildings of Hawaii. One big powerful family.

Who did Dickey's sister Belle marry? None other than the "Pineapple King", James Drummond Dole and the Kenyan just happened to be working for him during the summer of 1960.

 
 
 
 
 
 
Wigglesworth Dole
(1779–1845)
 
Elizabeth Haskell
(1788–1877)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Daniel Dole
(1808–1878)
 
 
 
Nathan Dole
(1811–1855)
 
Elizabeth Dole
(1815–1863)
 
 
Isaiah Dole
(1819–1892)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
George Hathaway Dole
(1842–1912)
 
Sanford Ballard Dole
(1844–1926)
 
Charles Fletcher Dole
(1845–1927)
 
Nathan Haskell Dole
(1852–1935)
 
 
Edmund Pearson Dole
(1850–1928)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
James Drummond Dole
(1877–1958)

 
William P. Alexander
(1805–1884)
 
Mary Ann McKinney
(1810–1888)
 
Amos Starr Cooke
(1810–1871)
 
Juliette Montague
(1812–1896)
 
Dwight Baldwin
(1798–1886)
 
Charlotte Fowler
(1805–1873)
 
J. W. Smith
(1810–1887
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David Dwight Baldwin
(1831–1912)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
W. O. Smith
(1848–1929)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
William D. Alexander
(1833–1913)
 
Abigail Baldwin
(1847–1912)
 
Samuel T. Alexander
(1836–1904)
 
Martha Eliza Cooke
 
Ann Elizabeth Alexander
(1843–1940)
 
Henry P. Baldwin
(1842–1911)
 
Emily Whitney Alexander
(1846–1943)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Agnes Alexander
(1875–1971)
 
Annie Montague Alexander
(1867–1950)
 
C.W. Dickey
(1871–1942)
 
Belle Dickey
(1880–1972)
 
James Dole
(1877–1958)
 
Henry Alexander Baldwin
(1871–1946)
 
Ethel Frances Smith
(1879–1967)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
J. Walter Cameron
(1895–1976)
 
 
 
Francis Baldwin
(1904–1996)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Colin C. Cameron
(1927–1992)
(Kapalua)

Of course there are unknowns. But unknowns are a lot better then believing things that aren’t so. They clutter up the view and leave not enough room for what IS so.
712 posted on 02/04/2014 10:59:53 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer
Ok, I'm intruiged, but where is it going? You've left me hanging at some golf course resort on Maui. All I can contribute is a photograph which looks like the kenyan with his co-workers at the cannery, where he was for one month. The source, Daphne Barak, got this from 'granny' Sarah when she visited her in Kenya, and the old lady proudly described it as her stepson with his Harvard associates. Considering the number of Hawaiians, Indians and what look like Filipinos, all in bare feet, I imagine this is from when he was at the Dole Corp cannery.

He played golf?

There's a similarity between these three, if you haven't noticed. That's Nkrumha, who was one of the first to liberate his country (Ghana) from the terrible colonialists. We'll temporarilly ignore that he ran that wealthy country into the ground and there was massive rejoicing when he was kicked out:

The third fellow needs no introduction, his statues are mostly being recycled into something useful.

Nkrumah's statue is still there, but the other one has been removed. The Indonesians are a mercurial people. Love you and hate you at the drop of hat.

Please continue. You say Frank is related to the king of Hawaii? Kamehameha came from Chicago? I'll be (as we say in Oz) darned.

713 posted on 02/04/2014 11:39:56 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Brown Deer

1650 acres of bliss on Maui, check it out, how about we book in for a couple of weeks, do some research, you bring the white board and I'll bring the beer or the wine...

LOOKIE HERE

714 posted on 02/05/2014 12:00:27 AM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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