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To: Yaelle; hoosiermama; SatinDoll; David

Yes, she did send him back from Indo to Hawaii 2x. I don’t have Lia’s story handy to compare, but do have my dog-eared copy of “Dreams” with its myriad of post-it markers [2004 paperback edition, published by Three Rivers Press].

To keep in mind:

It was October 1967 that Barry and his mother moved from Hawaii to Indonesia. From Lolo’s INS file we know she and Barry didn’t move to Indonesia WITH Lolo when he was sent back in [IIRC] 1965. She remained in Hawaii until she completed her studies at the university. So it’s logical that Barry would have been in the kindergarten class in Hawaii. Depending on the cut-off date for commencing public education in Hawaii, Barry might have also attended 1st grade, and 2nd grade to the point of the move to Indonesia. Cut-off dates vary between states/districts. For example, in one district the kindergarten registration requirement will be being age 5 by Sept. 1st; in another district it will be being age 5 by July 1st; in another, age 5 by Dec. 1st. Depending on Honolulu’s requirements at the time, Barry - who turned 5 on Aug. 4, 1966 - should have attended kindergarten of school year 1966/67, and part of the 1st grade fall semester of 1967/68. He then would have been in second grade for 1968/69, and 3rd grade for 1969/70.

So - the photo has him in Hawaii in Dec. 1969 [for how long?], “his” words in ‘Dreams’ have him in Hawaii in the summer of 1970 [for how long?], and he was moved permanently to Hawaii in 1971. That kid spent a lot of time on very expensive airline flights - and apparently much of it without his mother, which means he had his own passport. As who? Barack Obama? Barry Soetoro? Barry Soebarkah?

Apologies for rambling - need coffee.

Barry’s mother’s application for renewal of her passport - the “Soebarkah” document - was dated August 13, 1968.

There is the photo purportedly taken in Hawaii [is the authenticity in dispute?], identified as Scott & Barry 3rd grade 1969. In the background of the photo is a bulletin board with several kid-style drawings of Christmas trees, so indications are the photo was taken in mid-ish-December, 1969.

Maya Soetoro was born August 15, 1970.

In “Dreams”, page 53 - describing his 1971 trip from Indonesia to Hawaii: “I looked down at the wooden mask I was carrying in my hand. It was a gift from the Indonesian copilot, a friend of my mother’s who had led me away as she and Lolo and my new sister, Maya, stood by the gate.”

Page 54 - describing his arrival in Hawaii: “...the customs officer finally tapped me on the shoulder and asked if I was an American. I nodded and handed him my passport.”

Page 54 - describing what his mother had said to him about his pending move from Indonesia to Hawaii [caps mine, for emphasis]: “The new arrangement hadn’t sounded so bad when my mother first explained it to me. It was time for me to attend an American school, she had said; I’d run through all the lessons of my correspondence course. She said that she and Maya would be joining me in Hawaii very soon - a year, tops - and that she’d try to make it there for Christmas. SHE REMINDED ME OF WHAT A GREAT TIME I’D HAD LIVING WITH GRAMPS AND TOOT JUST THE PREVIOUS SUMMER - the ice cream, the cartoons, the days at the beach.”


465 posted on 01/30/2014 9:59:58 AM PST by GGMac ((lesson learned re Obie: parse every sentence, every word, every gesture, every photo))
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To: Yaelle; hoosiermama; SatinDoll; David

RE: my post at #465:

The paragraph reading “It was October 1967...; the paragraph reading “So - the photo has him in Hawaii...”; and the paragraph reading “Apologies for rambling...”....SHOULD FOLLOW the paragraph reading “Page 54 - describing what his mother had said to him about his pending move...”

Yaaaggghhh. sorry for the upside-down screw-up. Obviously I need more than coffee...perhaps some sleep...


466 posted on 01/30/2014 10:09:48 AM PST by GGMac ((lesson learned re Obie: parse every sentence, every word, every gesture, every photo))
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To: GGMac

Maya Soetoro was born August 15, 1970. ...

In “Dreams”, page 53 - describing his 1971 trip from Indonesia to Hawaii ...

SHE REMINDED ME OF WHAT A GREAT TIME I’D HAD LIVING WITH GRAMPS AND TOOT JUST THE PREVIOUS SUMMER
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The previous summer was the summer of Maya’s birth, August 1970. His grandparents were in Indonesia that summer. They arrived even as Ann went into labor, according to this story: http://teguhtimur.com/2008/11/16/mengenang-madelyn-dunham-nenek-barack-obama/

“Madelyn dan Stanley Dunham juga pernah mengunjungi Indonesia. Menurut cerita Maya Soetoro-Ng, kakek dan neneknya tiba di depan rumah mereka di Jakarta saat ibunya, Ann Dunham, yang sedang mengandung Maya tengah mengalami kontraksi. Lalu bersama mereka ke rumah sakit tempat Maya dilahirkan. Hari itu 14 Agustus 1970.”

Did they bring Barry back for the birth?


481 posted on 01/31/2014 12:02:38 PM PST by Greenperson
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