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To: DiogenesLamp

It is only the Lost Cause Losers who incorrectly claim that “Abolition of Slavery is the Casus belli” for the north (and then use it in an intellectually dishonest manner to attempt to build an accusation of logical fallacy).

The north went to war to save the union and ended up saving the slaves from slavery. The south went to war to slave slavery and ended up losing everything.

And yes, everyone knows Lincoln’s views on slavery and the black man. Your gotcha got no one. But your simplistic “understanding” of those views does a disservice to both Lincoln and you.


591 posted on 08/08/2013 7:08:35 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr
It is only the Lost Cause Losers who incorrectly claim that “Abolition of Slavery is the Casus belli” for the north (and then use it in an intellectually dishonest manner to attempt to build an accusation of logical fallacy).

Then I take it from your response that you don't regard the "Abolition of Slavery" as the casus belli? Good. We are making progress.

The north went to war to save the union and ended up saving the slaves from slavery.

That was the claim, but i'm not certain that it is the exact truth, but it is closer to the truth than anything i've seen on this thread so far. I'll take it. Now we can move on to discussing whether saving the union was a legitimate cause of war, though I don't think it was the actual cause.

The south went to war to slave slavery and ended up losing everything.

Slavery wasn't in Jeopardy. All sorts of promises from people in the Federal Government assured them of this. Must be more to it than just saving slavery.

And yes, everyone knows Lincoln’s views on slavery. Your gotcha got no one. But your simplistic “understanding” of those views does a disservice to both Lincoln and you.

Really? How do you put Lincoln's willingness to tolerate slavery into a positive light? It would seem to me that this circumstance sort of blows your whole argument.

It's rather hard to argue that the South was fighting for slavery when Lincoln made it clear that he was willing to give it to them.

596 posted on 08/08/2013 7:42:33 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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