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To: Sherman Logan

I thought you guys said the North went to war with the South because the South attack Ft Sumter, that the South started the war, but here you are claiming they waged war with the South to end slavery.


47 posted on 07/30/2013 8:48:01 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: CodeToad

In 1861 the war was only peripherally about slavery. By 1863 ending slavery was an explicit goal of the war.

Here’s your post to which I responded. “I don’t recall anyone in the North claiming to be waging war with the South to end slavery.”

Even in 1861 this wasn’t entirely accurate, though it was largely right. Over the course of 1862 this changed, and by 1863 it was completely inaccurate.

Revolutions (and wars) have a tendency to get out of the control of those who initiate them, and very often wind up leading to results not originally intended.

For instance, in our own Revolution, in early 1775 few had any desire for independence, but by the middle of 1776 they promulgated the Declaration of Independence. So by your criteria, if those who fought the British in April, 1775 were not doing so to gain independence, then independence wasn’t a reason for the war.

So if we’re going to talk about war goals, it is necessary to define which period we’re talking about.


51 posted on 07/30/2013 8:55:22 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: CodeToad

That isn’t his claim.


52 posted on 07/30/2013 8:55:44 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: CodeToad

The north went to war to save the union and ended up saving the slaves. The south went to war to save slavery and ended up losing everything.


53 posted on 07/30/2013 8:58:05 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: CodeToad

The south started the insurrection and war to protect, further, and extend the institution of human slavery.

The United States put down their violent insurrection.


96 posted on 07/30/2013 12:26:31 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: CodeToad

They are full of crap

To think average federal gave a damn about slavery is a pipedream


383 posted on 08/05/2013 10:26:50 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: CodeToad

My title for this movie was rejected as being too long:

The War of Northern Aggression and the Right to Own Other People.


515 posted on 08/07/2013 10:32:06 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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