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To: BlackElk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBhdXfCdaA8&feature=player_embedded

71 year old man wrestled to the ground at a Paul Ryan event. Paul Ryan had asserted that programs like social security programs and medicaid were entitlement programs and the man went ballistic, rightfully so, I might add. While these programs need reform, people who paid into them and are 71 are hardly in a position to go back to work.

Sadly, Paul Ryan treats it as a joke rather than answer the question.


2,544 posted on 08/13/2012 6:04:10 AM PDT by GailA (IF U will not keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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To: GailA

These programs pay out FAR FAR FAR more than these people ever paid in.

Im sick of these greedy old people who act like welfare cases when the math is plainly clear that they are bleeding the system dry.


2,547 posted on 08/13/2012 6:09:14 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GailA
Sadly, Paul Ryan treats it as a joke rather than answer the question.

That is completely intellectually dishonest. He did no such thing. Paul Ryan is a speaker at a Rotary event, that must go on and he needs a transition to put the focus back to the speech rather than the screaming disruption. So he makes a joke of the behavior of Tom Nielsen, not the question. The way Mr. Nielsen conducted his question is what denies any right of his to have the question answered in any rational way at that event.

Interesting also, here's the statement by Congressman Ryan that preceded the ballistic reaction that you call "righfully so" (Srsly?!) ...

"Most of our debt in the future comes from our entitlement programs ..."

That statement is a fact. And you need to do more research into the Social Security System, signed into law in 1935 by FDR and bastardized by the DemocRATS ever since then in so many ways. Way too many people take out more than they ever put in which is why SS is on life support and needs critical reform which Paul Ryan is properly fiscally recommending.

Bottom line, government should have never been in the nanny state business of confiscatory retirement planning. That is up to the individual which is also a part of Paul Ryan's point.

2,549 posted on 08/13/2012 6:34:30 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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