Posted on 08/01/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
"Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982." Dr. Ron J. Polland
The “Mal-Val” youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named “Val” into an image of Obama, he insinuates that “Val” is Obama’s mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.
In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, “Val,” in Polarik’s Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obama’s mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?
Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.
For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as “researchers” has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obama’s mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!
Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.
For years the “researchers” had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barry’s mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the “researchers” claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the “researchers” appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been “protecting.” They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.
The “researchers” claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldn’t revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?
In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barry’s mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the “researchers” have totally failed to refute.
Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obama’s mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Name: Jo Ann D Newman
Birth Date: 5 Apr 1944
Address: 21 Drake Rd, Middletown, NY, 10940-6289
Name: Valerie Newman
Birth Date: 1940
Address: 370 Montauk Cir, Syracuse, NY, 13212
Name: Valerie Newman
Birth Date: 1940
Address: 370 Montauk Cir, Syracuse, NY, 13212
Valerie right age to be Mum, Jo Ann right age to be the junior on paper who got to write the Obit for her relative Valerie’s lover Malcolm X.
Allow me to suggest you ask them, and get back to us when you have an answer. Your attitude stinks. You demand WE work for you? You are disappointed at the pace, you think something more should have been done by now; you know what that makes you? A WHINGING POM.
Well there you go, you've found a Valerie, congratulations.
You claim to have researched but you don’t have the answer to basic`questions after 4 years?
Is Bari Malik Shabazz’s postal address within 10 miles`of FMD not of interest?
I’m sure you must know all about this and you are feigning.
Proud and unappologetic Englishman at your service.
Psst I found a Valerie AND a Jo Ann.
Did you check out Bari’s birth record in Jamaica?
If there is evidence of all photos of SAD with the face radically photoshopped, let’s see it. I haven’t seen it. Graphics experts haven’t shown it. If it’s there, let’s see it.
The face supposedly Jo Ann Newmann’s that looks very boyish bears no resemblence at all to SAD, so the shop jobs must be very extensive and obvious to experts.
But no evidence in that regard has surfaced.
Like I wrote, congrats! Now send me the money and I'll fly to Jamaica and check out the public birth index and see if I can find...what's his name...Barrington Smith?
Carry on. Don't let me stop you.
I’m shocked. You mean, after 4 years, no one has checked out the birth record of someone the same age group as Obama, who had a postal address in Hawaii, within 10 miles of Frank Marshall Davis, and who at some stage called himself the same name as Malcolm X?
Ever hear of agency?
Paging Sheriff Arpaio..........
It’s not worth the time and effort, that image in the crowd from a video is a boy, and that’s the end of it. Funny thing is, there is a woman sitting amongst the people at the funeral, she’s wearing dark glasses - but no one noticed her. Trowbridge has found one face in the crowd OF A YOUNG BOY and has no idea who that might have been.
And from this, we get a theory that ALL of SAD’S images, AND THAT MEANS HUNDREDS have all been tampered with.
It’s too ridiculous to spend any more time on imo. Those who want to believe that’s someone named Jo Ann Newman with zero by the river, will believe it no matter what you try to show them.
And notice, it’s not as if the image used in that article was IDENTIFIED - it was just AN ILLUSTRATION.
But that didn’t stop people sending it to me to show me they had found Jo Ann Newman.
“Trowbridge has found one face in the crowd OF A YOUNG BOY..”
Surely that is a matter of opinion. I think “Stanley Ann” looks like a boy, Martha thinks she can tell the difference between a boy and a girl. I think Martha has it.
Why does it matter? Obama’s is obviously an extension of his brand. Context is everything.
Does Paul fit in there anywhere?
Ha Ha. No Nanette either. Did say you were on the wrong side.
Try focusing on who Obama’s parents really were.
Malcolm X and Val,
They redacted his parents’ names on the grounds that they had no evidence that THEY were not still alive.
Their paths may have crossed when SAD became the Nanny on the day she showed little zero to Susan. That doesn't make Stanley Ann Dunham a boy named Jo Ann Newman.
Kafka?
The person at X’s funeral doesn’t look like a boy to me and Trowbridge didn’t caption her as a Dunham.
The other photos of “Dunham” just show how messed about photos can be with Photoshop.
A creative writer like Trowbridge might think so.
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