ME : The problems with the economy go back to the incestuous relationships between Federal Govt , the FED , GS and the banksters in general
TQ: You give a great example of what I just said. What’s the evidence for your claim? And, how can a person with traditional American values even write something like that without even bothering to be specific?
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I don’t have a staff to clip and file every piece of information so I can regurgitate it at your command .. The fact is that you could fill several warehouses with data backing up everything I and FromLori have said ... I have seen the raw data and the reports enough to where I can tell you exactly how damn near everything in this realm will play out ...
If you are so blind that you cannot see the revolving door between the democrat party (and to a lesser extent the republicans) , wall street , the way that oversight at the SEC , the banking comittees , the FCIC and FDIC etc. etc. , has been winked at for DECADES and the way we are currently bankrupting every person in the country by destroying the faith (what little is left) in the USD to save a handful of companies that abused their power knowing that through their government connections they would never be made to pay if their bets failed ... you are beyond saving...
I wasn't rude to you, I think, was I? I understand that it can be frustrating when the opponent seems not to understand what you think is obvious. Don't you think I also have reasons to claim that some people on this thread are on crack?
What do you see on this thread except mass hysteria --- and hysteria in response to merely asking people to back up what they themselves claim. If anyone looks to be on crack it is those that scream at the top of their lungs, without a bit of information but plenty of name-calling.
Unlike most others, you have the integrity to admit that you cannot provide any evidence but believe that there is a ton of it:
I don’t have a staff to clip and file every piece of information so I can regurgitate it at your command .. The fact is that you could fill several warehouses with data backing up everything
Of course you don't have time to clip everything. Nobody is asking you or expect that you clip every piece. Just find one piece of evidence that Goldman Sacks ever asked for the TARP money. I can't. Check for evidence also that Goldman:
(i) Was begging the government to take back that money.
(ii) When finally allowed to return that money, whether it was even trying to bargain with the government or paid the government's asking price that yielded the taxpayer over 20% annualized return.
(iii) Reminded the congressional committee that it had never wanted the money, with Blankfein saying, to wit: "We raised money in the private markets just days before the bailout; we would've raised more if we needed more" (to help you: this testimony was on C-Span).
Seems like GS never wanted the money in the first place, tried to return it at the first opportunity, and was willing to get rid of it under any conditions, paying whopping 20-25% interest --- the asking price of the government --- without any bargaining.
So, please do find one piece of evidence that GS asked for the TARP money. You don't have to tell me the results of your search. You don't have to do that today or tomorrow. But please do try to find something at some point. See what happens.
Have a good day.