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I looked at your linked article on the Northwest Territories, and while I don't recall it, the last two grafs substantially reproduce the argument that I recall being made by our FReeper discussants, at least the Southern ones.

So the FR debate record has gone missing but the brief supporting your side of the debate is found. Isn't that kinda convenient LG?

First you invent a phony southern caricature and assign him a reoccurring spot in Alfred Hitchcock films, then you fabricate a Senate cloakroom railroad deal between Douglas and Davis, now an imagined debate on FR where upon, it was determined that NorthWest Ordinance was unconstitutional.

In each instance your opponent is left looking for something that doesn't actually exist.

I think we're beginning to see a pattern of practice emerging here pardner.

Lolz.

So the FR debate record has gone missing but the brief supporting your side of the debate is found. Isn't that kinda convenient LG?

A lot more convenient that FRiend rustbucket brought in some of the original material so we didn't have to cull through a bunch of Non-Sequitur's non-sequiturs and Dump_truck's dump jobs, just to get to the same links and original docs.

Besides, who said the debate thread had "gone missing"?

I just said I don't know where it is. Some of the other FReepers, like nolu chan, used to save those threads in case they got pulled on account of extreme Yankee coven trolling ( and losing).

But here is a link. Did you read it? Look at it?

You snarked. Did you read first?

then you fabricate a Senate cloakroom railroad deal between Douglas and Davis

The deal was real. Deal with it. It's American history, it unfolded over a period of weeks and months in 1854, and it fell apart over Lecompton. Douglas brought the Kansas-Nebraska Act to the table, and Jefferson Davis brought the Transcontinental Railroad, for which he favored the 35th Parallel route his surveyors had mapped out under his authority as Secretary of War, in response to the 1853 act requiring him to do so. Douglas and other Midwestern senators really wanted that eastern terminus located on the High Plains, conveniently close to Chicago and the Great Lakes. Davis, Douglas, and many others had entertained an enthusiasm for the idea of the railroad going back into the 1840's, but Davis was the man on the spot, the guy with the portfolio, and he was from Mississippi and allied with the Southern senators in the so-called "F Street" group that wanted the Territories held open to slaveholders. Or do you deny that? How then do you say that all of that is "fabricated"?

You smear people. That's why nobody takes you seriously, because that's the only reason you're on FR -- to scoff and troll and bait people. Too bad you don't have real skillz, like N-S.

When was the last time you posted a link to anything?

Supported anything you said?

Posted in good faith, to advance a discussion and expand people's understanding?

Link me to a post like that, one you made. I've lost track .... possibly because you've never done it. Go on, relieve my misgivings about your bona fides.

More to my earlier reply, scoffer, see Here:

http://lincoln.lib.niu.edu/biography6text.html

and Here:

http://usinfo.org/docs/democracy/22.htm.

Now, before we go further, do you still insist that I "fabricated" U.S. history?

Please address the question directly in your response.

And just to round things off, do you still insist that rustbucket and I are trying to put one over on thread readers concerning the Northwest Territories and various controversies over their organization by Congress? That we are "fabricating" things about that juncture of American history as well?

Please answer directly.