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To: Polarik

Since Obama allowed a forged COLB to be put up on the net, and his campaign managers at Fight the Smears attested that it was genuine, I think several things follow.

First, as you say, doing so was a criminal act. So far as I know, Obama has never PERSONALLY stated or sworn that the fake COLB was his. But he allowed his campaign and his workers and the media and his political allies repeatedly and publicly to state as much, and did not speak out about this falsehood. That makes him guilty.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with demanding that he produce a real, official, attested birth certificate.

I also don’t think there’s anything wrong with saying that he almost certainly committed other crimes, such as swearing when he became a lawyer that he never used any other name—a clear falsehood.

I also think that, regardless of where he was born, his parents almost certainly relinquished his American citizenship when he was adopted and became an Indonesian citizen named Barry Soetero. He would have been entitled to reclaim his citizenship at any time after he returned from Indonesia, but there is NO EVIDENCE that he ever did so. It’s too late for him to fill out those papers now.

In other words, he has evidently committed numerous crimes and misdemeanors and falsely swore his solemn oath when he pretended to assume the presidency. That may be why he stumbled and had to take his oath a second time—without witnesses of any kind.

All of this is undeniable. The only COLB we have seen is a fake and a forgery. So, there is absolutely no evidence that he is eligible to be POTUS, but there is plenty of evidence that he is a serial liar. And he has done absolutely nothing to prove any of these serious doubts wrong.


109 posted on 08/03/2010 9:31:28 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: Cicero; All

” I also think that, regardless of where he was born, his parents almost certainly relinquished his American citizenship when he was adopted and became an Indonesian citizen named Barry Soetero. He would have been entitled to reclaim his citizenship at any time after he returned from Indonesia, but there is NO EVIDENCE that he ever did so. It’s too late for him to fill out those papers now.

In other words, he has evidently committed numerous crimes and misdemeanors and falsely swore his solemn oath when he pretended to assume the presidency. That may be why he stumbled and had to take his oath a second time—without witnesses of any kind.

All of this is undeniable. The only COLB we have seen is a fake and a forgery. So, there is absolutely no evidence that he is eligible to be POTUS, but there is plenty of evidence that he is a serial liar. And he has done absolutely nothing to prove any of these serious doubts wrong. “

Good points!

Obama is a criminal. We are bandying moot points here. The only real question at this juncture is the depth, and extent of his criminality.


113 posted on 08/03/2010 9:42:10 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (.)
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