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To: Gordon Greene; metmom
The problem is that you are asking people who embrace Christianity to condemn others so that you can use their words for your own personal, sick purpose... [134] [BuckW's] claims are generally baseless [140]

Yes, that's what's going on. For example, in another thread, BuckW claims that evolution is a dogma of the Catholic Church:

Most Catholics believe in evolution, as does the Church as a whole.
However, John-Paul II said:
It is by virtue of his spiritual soul that the whole person possesses such a dignity even in his body. Pius XII stressed this essential point: If the human body take its origin from pre-existent living matter, the spiritual soul is immediately created by God ("animas enim a Deo immediate creari catholica fides nos retinere iubei"; "Humani Generis," 36). Consequently, theories of evolution which, in accordance with the philosophies inspiring them, consider the spirit as emerging from the forces of living matter or as a mere epiphenomenon of this matter, are incompatible with the truth about man.
And Benedict XVI said:
We are not some casual and meaningless product of evolution.
Nevertheless, atheists will continue to claim that the Catholic Church, as a whole, accepts as fact that man originates from naturalistic processes without the creative acts of God, and that man is a meaningless, unintended meat by-product of a mindless meatgrinder called natural selection. I know from prior experience that they will continue to make this claim no matter what you, I, the Pope, or anyone says.
194 posted on 08/10/2009 7:58:54 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode; Buck W.; metmom; Gordon Greene
Shame on you for excerpting the Pope to make it seem like he is anti-evolution!

SHAME on you!

Here is what he says on evolution!

They are presented as alternatives that exclude each other,” the pope said. “This clash is an absurdity because on one hand there is much scientific proof in favor of evolution, which appears as a reality that we must see and which enriches our understanding of life and being as such.”

203 posted on 08/10/2009 8:08:16 PM PDT by ColdWater
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