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V-shaped UFOs in NM photos
examiner ^ | January 16 2009

Posted on 01/17/2009 1:52:28 PM PST by JoeProBono

CHAMA, NM - Several meandering V-shaped UFOs near a mountain slope here turned up on a woman's digital photos. Three photos shot with a 21 megapixel camera caught multiple crafts approaching in the first frame, one craft in frame two moving close to the ground while the others take positions in the sky, and then frame three shows all of the crafts moving out of the area.

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To: Quix

“FIRST HAND, PRIMARY SOURCE REPORT.”

When I did my Masters thesis on slave families I had to provide solid primary sources for any information which supported my thesis. I had lots of diaries and writings by slave owners in the Ante-bellum south claiming slaves were treated well. I could not rely on this data because a slave owner has a very clear point of view and is trying to promote his own agenda. I couldn’t use the writings of abolitionists because they also had a point of view and had an agenda of making slavery look as bad as possible.

Both were primary sources but of little value given their clear desire to promote an idea. This is precisely what you do. You post all kinds of writings by people who make no secret of the fact they believe in extra terrestrial visits, therefore their writings can be automatically dismissed as biased and not worthy of consideration in trying to prove extra terrestials.

The problem with what you call your 30 years of “study” is that it is not really study but just reading that which you already want to believe. When you see anything that challenges your point of view you dismiss it as a conspiracies by world firsters or coverups by the govt.

You still have not provided one bit of valid evidence for what you claim. Not one single tiny bit.


681 posted on 01/27/2009 12:53:45 PM PST by yazoo
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To: yazoo
I don’t wish it to be something extra terrestrial the way you do

BTW,

Your ignorance about me is about as complete as your ignorance about UFO's.

I have 0.0000000000% WISH for things to be extraterrestrial!

My wish is merely for the truth to surface.

682 posted on 01/27/2009 12:56:36 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: yazoo

Yet again . . .

THOROUGHLY UNTRUE ABOUT ME

AND

THOROUGHLY UNTRUE ABOUT THE TOPIC.

What tenacity for willful ignorance. Amazing.


683 posted on 01/27/2009 12:58:06 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

“In historiography, a primary source (also called original source) is a document, recording or other source of information(paper, picture,....etc) that was created at the time being studied, by an authoritative source, usually one with direct personal knowledge of the events being described.”

That is a good explanation. If you had the writings of a gold miner describing what it was like to mine gold in California in the early 19th century you could consider it an authentic description from a good source. If the same gold miner said he frequently saw a funny light cruising over the trees at dusk you could accept he had seen the light. What you could not do is jump to the conclusion that miners in California in the early 19th century had been visited by extra-terrestrials. Which is the conclusion you would draw.


684 posted on 01/27/2009 1:16:41 PM PST by yazoo
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To: Quix

“My wish is merely for the truth to surface.”

The truth to be, there are extra terrestrials visiting us. You are splitting hairs.


685 posted on 01/27/2009 1:34:55 PM PST by yazoo
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To: yazoo

YOU seem to be scoring 100%

at being thoroughly clueless and wholesale wrong and inaccurate about me.

I’d not assume such a thing about the miner—particularly without more information. There are lots of possibilities.


686 posted on 01/27/2009 1:40:10 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: yazoo

It’s fascinating

HOW CONSISTENTLY

YOUR WHOLESALE FLAWED TENDENCY TO JUMP TO 100% FALSE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT ME

PARALLEL

YOUR WHOLESALE FLAWED TENDENCY TO JUMP TO FALSE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT THE UFO DATA AND REALITIES.

Really fascinating . . . psychologically, of course.


687 posted on 01/27/2009 1:41:58 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: yazoo

WRONG!

WRONG!

WRONG AGAIN!

LOL.

NO!

IT’S NOT AT ALL CLEAR

that they are bona fide EXTRATERRESTRIAL in the conventional sense.

They could be ‘merely’ spirit beings from another dimension. They could be close cousins of demons.

There are lots of stories about other civilizations on other planets and even of our folks going there and staying for extended periods and even of our having bases on the moon, Mars etc.

But all that is, so far, interesting stories. Who. but God, knows what’s true.


688 posted on 01/27/2009 1:44:04 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: yazoo

I really do APPRECIATE, HOWEVER,

your chronic plethora of wholesale farcical and WRONG-HEADED ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT ME.

It serves as an excellent highlight of how and why so many naysayers are so bull-headed WRONG about their assumptions about the UFO data and realities.


689 posted on 01/27/2009 1:45:33 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

“I’d not assume such a thing about the miner—particularly without more information. There are lots of possibilities.”

I’m not sure you understand what an “analogy” is. You certainly are in love with the word “wholesale,” however.


690 posted on 01/27/2009 3:29:36 PM PST by yazoo
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To: Quix

Thanks so much for the pings. I watched that video you sent me yesterday - pretty impressive really. I’ll be reading through this stuff later tonight. :)


691 posted on 01/27/2009 6:32:16 PM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: yazoo

Naw . . .

analogy wuz wun uv them thar big wurds

thut we nevuh coverd in mah PhD progrum.

Maybuh yuh kud xplane it tuh me?


692 posted on 01/27/2009 6:48:10 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: LibertyRocks

Much appreciate your kind and reality based responses and perspective! LOL.

LUB


693 posted on 01/27/2009 6:48:49 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: yazoo

Ahhh guess

yuh have a hard time lookin at an . . . what’z it . . .

oh, yeah,

yuh have a hard time lookin at wun of them thar analogies

xcept thru straw sized tunnel vision?

. . . and one direction, at that?


694 posted on 01/27/2009 6:50:20 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

“yuh have a hard time lookin at wun of them thar analogies

xcept thru straw sized tunnel vision?”

I guess you have no more to say, so you just make lame attempts at humor. Is analogy considered a big word in the crowds you run with? Interesting.


695 posted on 01/27/2009 7:05:33 PM PST by yazoo
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To: Quix
Sounds like you are returning to silly absurd willful ignorance.

Now hold on there, buddy. You're the one posting stuff from Nick Pope.  :)

696 posted on 01/27/2009 7:14:26 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (In this dance of Life, I have two left feet.)
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To: JoJo Gunn

He’s a decent ex-bureaucrat . . . of some clear intelligence and fair-mindedness who seems to have done a good job while in charge of the UFO archive . . . and has some useful, studied, experienced, near top-of-the-pile perspective

from which to comment and share.

I realize I don’t have a naysayer’s compulsion to blackwash any and everything in the same galactic cluster as the UFO stuff . . .

but goodness!

There’s absolutely no reason to trash Nick Pope nor his expert commentary on the field.

I guess some folks are elevated by the nature of those perspectives etc. that throw rocks at them.


697 posted on 01/27/2009 7:21:56 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: yazoo

Naw.

But sometimes, I get a kick out of playing along with idiotic assertions.

You might consider getting that straw-sized tunnel vision fixed. It can get dangerous in some contexts.


698 posted on 01/27/2009 7:23:11 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

“You might consider getting that straw-sized tunnel vision fixed. It can get dangerous in some contexts.”

You might consider getting help with your delusions. Surely someone, your wife, your friends, your neighbors have given you this advice before. Why don’t you consider it?


699 posted on 01/27/2009 7:41:35 PM PST by yazoo
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To: Quix
There’s absolutely no reason to trash Nick Pope nor his expert commentary on the field.

I've seen his web site, and it immediately trumpets  shyster and carnival barker.

700 posted on 01/27/2009 8:11:27 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (In this dance of Life, I have two left feet.)
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