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Well how about presenting and serious study you have that shows how this might operate, how the seller can avoid prosecution for very long, and how much total money is involved, Is this 10% of tax revenue? 20%? 0.000000000001% (or less).

What are we talking about here in the way of money. You not only have not characterized the amounts involved but you have made no convincing case at all that such activity could or would flourish.

Unless you have more bee-bees in your gun that that it's hardly worth discussing. So lets see how much we have today under the income tax and show us how that is then likely o increase under the FairTax. Information, please.

So far you've given none.

Well how about presenting and serious study you have that shows how this might operate, how the seller can avoid prosecution for very long, ..............What are we talking about here in the way of money. You not only have not characterized the amounts involved but you have made no convincing case at all that such activity could or would flourish.

This particular discussion started when another poster was celebarating the fact that, with the Fair Tax, the IRS would go away and therefore there would no longer be a U.S. Government Tax Big Brother looking over your shoulder.

I then said, in words to the effect, "Whoah, there!". The Income Tax Police would be replaced by the Sales Tax Police that would be just as bad.

That is when you jumped in to argue both sides of the issue at the same time.

You want to argue that there will be no temptation to cheat and no Tax Police but, at the same time, you want to argue that nobody would dare cheat because there is no way "how the seller can avoid prosecution for very long".

How can the seller avoid prosecution for very long?

In my real world scenario, they can't because, as I said before, "the Tax Police will be on them like pit bulls on a pork chop".

In your Alice in Wonderland scenario where the IRS is abolished and there is no Tax Police to replace it, the seller can avoid prosecution because, DUH!!!, there is no Tax Police to bring them to justice.

So, which is it?

Tax Police or no Tax Police?

Hauling in the tax cheats or not hauling in the tax cheats?

You can't have it both ways.

Are the cheaters going to turn themselves in on the honor system or will the Tax Police have to hunt them down like the Tax Police does today in Russia?

Fair Tax proponents say that the Fair Tax will be revenue neutral for the Government. If that is the case, that would mean that there will be $2 Trillion per year that will have to be turned over to the U.S. Government every year.

$2 Trillion per year that Americans will simply turn over to Uncle Sam without any temptation to cheat?

$2 Trillion per year that Americans will turn over simply on the Honor System?

$2 Trillion per year that Americans will simply turn over without the threat of a Tax Police?

Tell that to this guy the next time you see him: