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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Darwin never read any Marx...what a hoot! Darwin if nothing else was an avid reader and was well aware of marx and anything that smacked of anti Christian beliefs. He may not have read Kapital but he was familiar with it and his note to marx exhibits empathy and support no matter the "florid" style.

But more on the self centered misanthrope bozo Darwin and his anti Christian beliefs. In another letter to Edward Aveling - and you know who that jerk is--- he goes on

Dear Sir:
I am much obliged for your kind letter & the Enclosure.— The publication in any form of your remarks on my writing really requires no consent on my part, & it would be ridiculous in me to give consent to what requires none. I shd prefer the Part or Volume not to be dedicated to me (though I thank you for the intended honour) as this implies to a certain extent my approval of the general publication, about which I know nothing.— Moreover though I am a strong advocate for free thought on all subjects, yet it appears to me (whether rightly or wrongly) that direct arguments against christianity and theism produce hardly any effect on the public; & freedom of thought is best promoted by the gradual illumination of men's minds, which follow from the advance of science. It has, therefore, always been my object to avoid writing on religion, & I have confined myself to science. I may, however, have been unduly biased by the pain which it would give some members of my family , if I aided in any way direct attacks on religion.— I am sorry to refuse you any request, but I am old & have very little strength, and looking over proof-sheets (as I know by present experience) fatigues me much.
I remain Dear Sir,
Yours faithfully,
Ch. Darwin


946 posted on 12/20/2005 1:44:56 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121; CarolinaGuitarman
Darwin never read any Marx...what a hoot!

Will you admit that you were wrong in your earlier post?

Or is this tirade just to distract us from your previous (not to mention erroneous) assertion?

950 posted on 12/20/2005 1:46:35 PM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: eleni121
Darwin if nothing else was an avid reader and was well aware of marx and anything that smacked of anti Christian beliefs. He may not have read Kapital but he was familiar with it and his note to marx

Darwin never sent any note to Marx. This just another lie.

But more on the self centered misanthrope bozo Darwin and his anti Christian beliefs. In another letter to Edward Aveling - and you know who that jerk is--- he goes on

The letter was "anti-Christian"? Darwin was declining the dedication of a writing because of his belief that science should mingle in religion. It would help if you didn't support your claims by lying.

Then again, you've still refused to provide a reference to even one of the alleged "500 theses" on Piltdown Man that you claimed exist. Not surprising, since you were lying then also.
958 posted on 12/20/2005 1:48:54 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: eleni121
"Darwin never read any Marx...what a hoot! Darwin if nothing else was an avid reader and was well aware of marx and anything that smacked of anti Christian beliefs."

No, he never read Marx. Marx was a second tier socialist thinker in the 19th century. Darwin may have heard his name but there is ZERO evidence he ever read any of him. Why would he? Darwin was a free market, antislavery Whig.

"He may not have read Kapital but he was familiar with it and his note to marx exhibits empathy and support no matter the "florid" style."

Nonsense. It was a thank you. Darwin specifically says he knows very little about economics. How is this *support*?

"But more on the self centered misanthrope bozo Darwin and his anti Christian beliefs. In another letter to Edward Aveling - and you know who that jerk is--- he goes on"

Yes, this was the book that was to be dedicated to Darwin, and Darwin said no. Where is there ANY evidence that Darwin was a misanthrope, other than in your imagination? He had lots of friends, and enjoyed communicating with them.

The letter you posted shows that Darwin didn't want to get involved in a religious debate. Why should he have?


You are stretching for something, but you are not reaching it.
966 posted on 12/20/2005 1:51:32 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: eleni121
Do you know what these words mean?

I shd prefer the Part or Volume not to be dedicated to me (though I thank you for the intended honour) as this implies to a certain extent my approval of the general publication, about which I know nothing...

1,431 posted on 12/20/2005 5:35:17 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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