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To: laxin4him
1. "If you try and believe that evolution and Christianity are compatible how do you explain the genealogy in Matthew that goes back all the way to Adam? If it is not literal history it would be a lie and thus the bible could be full of lies."

Evolutionary analysis of mitochondria (inherited by the mother only) and the Y-Chromosome (father only) has actually confirmed that there is at least one common male and one common female ancestor. (It can neither confirm, nor deny, that they existed at the same time; but, by default, the common ancestor would have parents, making this point moot.) It's called the "Y-Chromosome Adam" and "Mitochondrial Eve."

2. "It says Adam and Eve were the first humans but I guess it would be silly to trace it back before adam and include the monkees huh?"

One, monkeys ("monkees" are a singing group I think, but I can't spell, either) are not ancestors. The theory is that all primates have a common ancestor that is neither monkey, nor man.

But one starts with Adam and Eve, of course, because they ate from the tree of knowledge (in biological terms, became self-aware). Anything that came before would merely be an animal, and not man.
107 posted on 12/20/2005 8:36:28 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: MeanWestTexan
The theory is that all primates have a common ancestor that is neither monkey, nor man.

That doesn't preclude the probability that they have a common ancestor that is entirely a monkey. I'm certain that many of our ancestors both prior to and after the last monkey-human common ancestor would be categorized as monkeys if we could see them today.

It's obviously true that the last common ancestor between chimps and humans was unarguably an ape. Consider: the last common ancestor of orangutans and the other apes existed before the last common ancestor of gorillas, chimps, and humans, which in turn existed before the last common ancestor of chimps and humans. So in order to say that the last ape-human common ancestor existed before there were any apes, you'd have to believe that orangutans, gorillas, and chimps somehow independently evolved into apehood sometime after the humans split off. That's ridiculous, hence, man evolved from ape.

173 posted on 12/20/2005 8:52:22 AM PST by Physicist
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