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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4
Link to previous Natalee Holloway Thread ^ | 6/30/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/30/2005 8:31:27 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Posted on 06/23/2005 12:44:51 PM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1429067/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Ariel/Satellite Map of Aruba
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=12.564583,-70.035954&spn=0.089264,0.123081&z=4&t=k&hl=en

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

Online TV Show Links


Shortcuts...

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty  (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network


Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




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To: cajungirl

Long as I get dibs on Marianne. I spotted her first I think.


1,001 posted on 07/01/2005 7:30:09 PM PDT by johnb838 (Adios, liberal mofos!)
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To: GarySpFc

They said they had sex at the beginning, and then changed it to say that they were just "making out". I guess the dutch words for sex and making out are either the same or similar and you must understand the context before you can determine the accurate meaning.


1,002 posted on 07/01/2005 7:30:32 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: GarySpFc

I read they used the word "vrijen" which must loosely translate to "fooling around" because they said it can mean anything from kissing to intercourse.


1,003 posted on 07/01/2005 7:31:23 PM PDT by johnb838 (Adios, liberal mofos!)
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To: Carolinamom

Nothing new on Greta's show, but Scarborough had the best interview yet with Beth and Jug. It was riveting. I do believe after seeing it that they know there is convincing evidence that those three kidnapped and murdered Natalee. Jug called them "predators" and said it would be a travesty to let them go on Monday. Scarborough repeats late at night. Catch it if you can.


1,004 posted on 07/01/2005 7:31:36 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: Jrabbit

I have a hard time believing it. He is a deejay. But seems kind of old for her.


1,005 posted on 07/01/2005 7:31:40 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: TexKat; maggiefluffs

I want to clear this up...

Charles Croes is not DEA - I never posted that he was DEA. I said that the "young man" that hooked the Twitty's up with Charles Croes is probably the DEA agent that had been on the island when Natalee came up missing... there was DEA agent on the island that worked directly with the Chaperone that stayed behind when the rest of Natalee's group flew back home.

Charles Croes owns a cell phone rental service and a Hugo Boss Clothing store in Aruba.

Sorry that I have not been here much... We lost a friend of ours on Wednesday evening. My husband and I learned about it Thursday evening. We are in complete shock over it. Our friend worked for the county sheriff's office here. Right now it is probably better that I don't talk about it on a public forum.


1,006 posted on 07/01/2005 7:31:53 PM PDT by stlnative (please do NOT feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)
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To: cajungirl

Natalees dad said something interesting....

If the perps are released on Mon., the family can appeal and they get to see all the filings, evidence, etc.


1,007 posted on 07/01/2005 7:32:00 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Jrabbit

How could Nat be seen with Trap???? Was HE croesing C&C's too? This just gets more sickening by the day.


1,008 posted on 07/01/2005 7:34:22 PM PDT by johnb838 (Adios, liberal mofos!)
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To: Carolinamom

I have told company that it is time for them to go to bed ,,I really have. I hate houseguests that keep me up!


1,009 posted on 07/01/2005 7:35:03 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: brigette

I am sorry to hear about your loss, brigette. While we miss your accurate commentary here, it is understandable that you must deal with your own grief and reach out to your friend's family right now.

My condolences to all.


1,010 posted on 07/01/2005 7:35:30 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: cajungirl

huh? I'm befuddled. The "Trap" on Scarbourough was some gov't. person. Smack me!

Please ignore all of my posts referring to Trap. I haven't a clue what or whom I'm talking about!

slinking off to the corner now


1,011 posted on 07/01/2005 7:35:58 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: TexKat

Dr. Baden is a forensic pathologist/medical examiner.

Cyril Wecht is a forensic pathologist/Medical
examiner and an attorney.


1,012 posted on 07/01/2005 7:36:04 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Jrabbit

I know that the local jail is not air conditioned, but is the prison air conditioned? Another 60 days w/out air conditioning just might make them sweat...in more ways than one.


1,013 posted on 07/01/2005 7:36:15 PM PDT by Carolinamom (NC motto: to be rather than to seem)
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To: brigette

I am sorry Bridgette,,you have been immersed in this and been so helpful and now a loss.


1,014 posted on 07/01/2005 7:36:58 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: brigette

Sorry brigette.....

Prayers for all


1,015 posted on 07/01/2005 7:37:26 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: johnb838

I think on Aruba everyone multitasks,,they workfor the govt, deejay, run boats, murder tourists, go to raves, phone call each other all night.

Man, they must all be either exhausted or on speed.


1,016 posted on 07/01/2005 7:38:06 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: TexKat
(Jug and Beth) will reveal it and all of America will be devastated.

And shocked.....urrr... Not I, Jug....Not I.

1,017 posted on 07/01/2005 7:38:11 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: cajungirl

When 11pm comes around and they're still up, I'll take a page from YOUR book! Bed time for Bozos coming up in 25 minutes. LOL


1,018 posted on 07/01/2005 7:38:22 PM PDT by Carolinamom (NC motto: to be rather than to seem)
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To: Jrabbit

Trap multitasks,,he is both a deejay and the Aruba spokesman. No kidding. That is for real. Can you believe it?


1,019 posted on 07/01/2005 7:39:40 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl

LOL

And they are all named Croes or Trappinsomething!


1,020 posted on 07/01/2005 7:41:40 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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